]]>2008-12-06T10:39:53+02:002008-12-06T10:39:53+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6510#p6510One hand also ok for me not against personal keymaping
Statistics: Posted by La Tenaille — 06 Dec 2008, 09:39
]]>2008-12-06T03:11:45+02:002008-12-06T03:11:45+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6503#p6503 I almost always 'saveAs' from the menu anyway--since I have to type in a new name, it's never just a quick keycommand like saving is....
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 06 Dec 2008, 02:11
]]>2008-12-05T10:36:21+02:002008-12-05T10:36:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6490#p6490 And if we want to respect the [ctrl] for wkp and [ctrl-alt] for patches it means that 'save as' will be: [ctrl+shift+s] for wkp and [ctrl+shift+alt+s] for patches...tricky because we need 2 hands... The ideal solution doesn't exist?
]]>2008-12-05T09:41:50+02:002008-12-05T09:41:50+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6489#p6489Ctrl-Shift-S is a convention used in almost all the open source softs. Of course, let's forget window$
Statistics: Posted by La Tenaille — 05 Dec 2008, 08:41
]]>2008-12-04T23:53:40+02:002008-12-04T23:53:40+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6484#p6484Statistics: Posted by bsork — 04 Dec 2008, 22:53
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2008-12-04T20:08:31+02:002008-12-04T20:08:31+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6480#p6480 ctrl for wkp ctrl+alt for patches
I think it's quite comfortable like that. the only big conflict is with the ctrl+A (save as). but I can't find a better candidate...
]]>2008-12-04T19:10:16+02:002008-12-04T19:10:16+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6475#p6475 You're right, Wodslanding, shortcuts are somewhat confusing (and keystroke+clicks too). When you patch modular stuffs in Usine, then in Reaktor, then back in Usine, then... you just turn crazy! I would also add the very popular ctrl+C, ctrl+X and Ctrl+V (copy, cut, paste) that don't work the same way in parameters textfiels, in patches textfields (typically the patch name), in the patching window (or sequencer) and so on. I've already seen ctrl+L for Select All, in some cheap softs, but Usine is NOT a cheap soft!!!! I think that Olivier is right: it's great time now to nomalize that according to the softs-world usage. Maybe a customizable table, why not, but what is really important for ergonomy is to have first the right usual shortcut keys (ctrl-F9 for compilation is the right one, for example). That's an old question now. Certainly not so easy to perfectly implement everywhere in the gui...
Statistics: Posted by Vincent — 04 Dec 2008, 18:10
]]>2008-12-03T20:12:27+02:002008-12-03T20:12:27+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6448#p6448 the 'timeout' on popup texfields. I realize I shouldn't leave the refrigerator door open while I'm deciding what to eat.... but--I do!
the need to double-click on list boxes to select an item. this one I got used to pretty quickly, but it confused me a LOT when I was first starting out.
-e
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 03 Dec 2008, 19:12
]]>2008-12-03T19:17:24+02:002008-12-03T19:17:24+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6440#p6440 Other small things: I also am having problems wanting to put tabs in the script window... and I'm used to dragging to select multiple objects. I really like the way usine moves the frame of view, but I would put that under a ctl-key if I had a choice, just for consistency with other programs.
not the #1 issue, but.... I do think these kinds of conventions are important to keep in mind.
cheers! -eric
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 03 Dec 2008, 18:17
]]>2008-12-03T16:29:02+02:002008-12-03T16:29:02+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6437#p6437Maybe it's time to start a more global reflexion on all the short-cuts.
]]>2008-12-02T22:15:06+02:002008-12-02T22:15:06+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6415#p6415 I'm used to ctl-shift-s for saveAs and ctl-A for select all. All the software I use follows this convention, and especially working on scripts and going back and forth from a text editor, it drives me crazy!
thanks for listening! -eric
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 02 Dec 2008, 21:15
]]>BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2008-12-06T13:18:09+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/11892008-12-06T13:18:09+02:002008-12-06T13:18:09+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6513#p6513let's try your suggestions.
]]>2008-12-06T10:39:53+02:002008-12-06T10:39:53+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6510#p6510One hand also ok for me not against personal keymaping
Statistics: Posted by La Tenaille — 06 Dec 2008, 09:39
]]>2008-12-06T03:11:45+02:002008-12-06T03:11:45+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6503#p6503 I almost always 'saveAs' from the menu anyway--since I have to type in a new name, it's never just a quick keycommand like saving is....
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 06 Dec 2008, 02:11
]]>2008-12-05T10:36:21+02:002008-12-05T10:36:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6490#p6490 And if we want to respect the [ctrl] for wkp and [ctrl-alt] for patches it means that 'save as' will be: [ctrl+shift+s] for wkp and [ctrl+shift+alt+s] for patches...tricky because we need 2 hands... The ideal solution doesn't exist?
]]>2008-12-05T09:41:50+02:002008-12-05T09:41:50+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6489#p6489Ctrl-Shift-S is a convention used in almost all the open source softs. Of course, let's forget window$
Statistics: Posted by La Tenaille — 05 Dec 2008, 08:41
]]>2008-12-04T23:53:40+02:002008-12-04T23:53:40+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6484#p6484Statistics: Posted by bsork — 04 Dec 2008, 22:53
]]>2008-12-04T20:08:31+02:002008-12-04T20:08:31+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6480#p6480 ctrl for wkp ctrl+alt for patches
I think it's quite comfortable like that. the only big conflict is with the ctrl+A (save as). but I can't find a better candidate...
]]>2008-12-04T19:10:16+02:002008-12-04T19:10:16+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6475#p6475 You're right, Wodslanding, shortcuts are somewhat confusing (and keystroke+clicks too). When you patch modular stuffs in Usine, then in Reaktor, then back in Usine, then... you just turn crazy! I would also add the very popular ctrl+C, ctrl+X and Ctrl+V (copy, cut, paste) that don't work the same way in parameters textfiels, in patches textfields (typically the patch name), in the patching window (or sequencer) and so on. I've already seen ctrl+L for Select All, in some cheap softs, but Usine is NOT a cheap soft!!!! I think that Olivier is right: it's great time now to nomalize that according to the softs-world usage. Maybe a customizable table, why not, but what is really important for ergonomy is to have first the right usual shortcut keys (ctrl-F9 for compilation is the right one, for example). That's an old question now. Certainly not so easy to perfectly implement everywhere in the gui...
Statistics: Posted by Vincent — 04 Dec 2008, 18:10
]]>2008-12-03T20:12:27+02:002008-12-03T20:12:27+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6448#p6448 the 'timeout' on popup texfields. I realize I shouldn't leave the refrigerator door open while I'm deciding what to eat.... but--I do!
the need to double-click on list boxes to select an item. this one I got used to pretty quickly, but it confused me a LOT when I was first starting out.
-e
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 03 Dec 2008, 19:12
]]>2008-12-03T19:17:24+02:002008-12-03T19:17:24+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6440#p6440 Other small things: I also am having problems wanting to put tabs in the script window... and I'm used to dragging to select multiple objects. I really like the way usine moves the frame of view, but I would put that under a ctl-key if I had a choice, just for consistency with other programs.
not the #1 issue, but.... I do think these kinds of conventions are important to keep in mind.
cheers! -eric
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 03 Dec 2008, 18:17
]]>2008-12-03T16:29:02+02:002008-12-03T16:29:02+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6437#p6437Maybe it's time to start a more global reflexion on all the short-cuts.
]]>2008-12-02T22:15:06+02:002008-12-02T22:15:06+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1189&p=6415#p6415 I'm used to ctl-shift-s for saveAs and ctl-A for select all. All the software I use follows this convention, and especially working on scripts and going back and forth from a text editor, it drives me crazy!
thanks for listening! -eric
Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 02 Dec 2008, 21:15