ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/1268 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32896#p32896 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> how is vstforx latency-wise?

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 18 May 2015, 13:15


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2015-05-17T07:01:37+02:00 2015-05-17T07:01:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32892#p32892 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by Shawn56 — 17 May 2015, 07:01


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2015-05-16T20:04:03+02:00 2015-05-16T20:04:03+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32884#p32884 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
the latest hollyhock version has fixed the midi sync. i guess you just have to set your daw or usine as master, sending midi timecode and the other receving, using a midivirtual driver like midiyoke, or loopbe
http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 16 May 2015, 20:04


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2015-05-16T19:53:16+02:00 2015-05-16T19:53:16+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32883#p32883 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by Shawn56 — 16 May 2015, 19:53


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2009-01-05T23:59:18+02:00 2009-01-05T23:59:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6965#p6965 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
when i set the tempo at let say 150 bpm on the zero and press play(on the zero), ableton live instantly start and it's tempo is sync to 150.
beleive me or not its up to you .I just made the test. ;)

if I change the tempo on the zero, ableton reflects tempo change quasi instantanely. Ive also tested only via software: cubase, reason and ableton can all be sync together (in fact any audio/midi daw that receive midi clock).

you might be right that a computer works better as a master than slave, but in full software side, any of cubase, reason, live ect can be sync as "slave" from other host, and it works perfecly., also I tried to play/stop and change tempo on the zero that is linked to live in slave mode, and no sync issues....wich tend to prove hardware midi clock can be well received by computer.
(zero use standart midi, no osc or whatever), but there might be some issues with some device I admit. (now I remember I prefered the computer master/ electribe slave as the other side was working a bit less, but with zero it seems to work perfectly)
(just for discussion, not arguing)

sysex ok hehe, you avoid me headhaches, I will inspect the midi clock modules and see..
anyway I ve plenty of modules to look at so I can wait for the issue to be fixed, I start to spend my night patching with usine wich is awesome!!!! thank you senso, last month i dreamt of it, now it's on my screen! ;) ;) ;)
cheers

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 05 Jan 2009, 22:59


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2009-01-05T02:50:07+02:00 2009-01-05T02:50:07+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6949#p6949 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
thank u amiga,
syncing in the other way (usine master, live &electribe slave) seems to work a bit better..
buti not agreei had a very stable live-electribe config in the two direction (also i check a lot dcp, running bg pgms), but even on a normal computer it works great..., im gonna try to investigate the modules too, but sysex is quite a real unkown for me...
- first: it is true, even the master midi clock preset does not work perfectly yet (latest version is quite ok)
- 'the two direction': so you had the computer as slave (press start on electribe, not on computer): be aware that the speed (bpm) of your songs do matter: fast song -> less stable sync. also the quality of the audio interface and/or midi interface does matter. cpu/ram of your computer does not matter (overall: I dont believe you had a rock solid sync with computer as slave, and optimization by turning of bg pgms/services does not much here)
- 'sysex': has nothing to do with midi clock

Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 05 Jan 2009, 01:50


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2009-01-05T02:33:52+02:00 2009-01-05T02:33:52+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6948#p6948 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> syncing in the other way (usine master, live &electribe slave) seems to work a bit better..
buti not agreei had a very stable live-electribe config in the two direction (also i check a lot dcp, running bg pgms), but even on a normal computer it works great..., im gonna try to investigate the modules too, but sysex is quite a real unkown for me...

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 05 Jan 2009, 01:33


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2009-01-04T21:18:48+02:00 2009-01-04T21:18:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6936#p6936 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
still a week newbie,

I couldn't figure out how to slave usine sync to any other daw/ext hardware
afaik slaving a computer is a bad idea anyway.
I would not know of any computer software that slaves tight to hardware.
this is not because of a lack of cpu power, its because usual OS have background threads running.
(still this is no excuse, my old amiga1200 slaves without problems (real multithreading!), also atari syncs tight).

workarounds:
- try with master clock, and slave the hw.
- new hw device: innerclock systems sync shift mk-II (does other things too, not cheap)
http://web.webhost4life.com/innerclock/ ... age&name=1

Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 04 Jan 2009, 20:18


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2009-01-04T17:56:38+02:00 2009-01-04T17:56:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6931#p6931 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 04 Jan 2009, 16:56


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2009-01-04T09:46:38+02:00 2009-01-04T09:46:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6923#p6923 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> be sure he is working on..

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 04 Jan 2009, 08:46


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2009-01-04T01:33:05+02:00 2009-01-04T01:33:05+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6918#p6918 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
I couldn't figure out how to slave usine sync to any other daw/ext hardware, I tried enabling MTC and MMC , also tried the midi clockIII modules, but I could'nt receive the classic start song, stable tempo midi clock. I am missing something?

the clock III seems to receive tempo but not start/stop and tempo is constantly changing and out of sync. I ve read it's an attempt;ok;
but there should be a more classic like other daws midi clock core gestion (imo)

Ive made a quick search in the forum and found it was a pb for other users, has the pb been evolving?

...cause sadly it make the use of using usine's remote, sequencers quite..useless if out of sync on the daw/harware lfos?
what is strange is that when I press play on live, an electribe (sayed to deal in mmc) starts on the fly and keep the tempo right away,
whereas usine doesn't start/sync tempo when i press play..
do I miss something? if not is it planned to be implemented?
othewise i m using lot of fun with usine, but this seems to me to be quite a real big issue for the potential...
cheers

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 04 Jan 2009, 00:33


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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/1268 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 2015-05-18T13:15:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32896#p32896 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> how is vstforx latency-wise?

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 18 May 2015, 13:15


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2015-05-17T07:01:37+02:00 2015-05-17T07:01:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32892#p32892 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by Shawn56 — 17 May 2015, 07:01


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2015-05-16T20:04:03+02:00 2015-05-16T20:04:03+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32884#p32884 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
the latest hollyhock version has fixed the midi sync. i guess you just have to set your daw or usine as master, sending midi timecode and the other receving, using a midivirtual driver like midiyoke, or loopbe
http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 16 May 2015, 20:04


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2015-05-16T19:53:16+02:00 2015-05-16T19:53:16+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=32883#p32883 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by Shawn56 — 16 May 2015, 19:53


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2009-01-05T23:59:18+02:00 2009-01-05T23:59:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6965#p6965 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
when i set the tempo at let say 150 bpm on the zero and press play(on the zero), ableton live instantly start and it's tempo is sync to 150.
beleive me or not its up to you .I just made the test. ;)

if I change the tempo on the zero, ableton reflects tempo change quasi instantanely. Ive also tested only via software: cubase, reason and ableton can all be sync together (in fact any audio/midi daw that receive midi clock).

you might be right that a computer works better as a master than slave, but in full software side, any of cubase, reason, live ect can be sync as "slave" from other host, and it works perfecly., also I tried to play/stop and change tempo on the zero that is linked to live in slave mode, and no sync issues....wich tend to prove hardware midi clock can be well received by computer.
(zero use standart midi, no osc or whatever), but there might be some issues with some device I admit. (now I remember I prefered the computer master/ electribe slave as the other side was working a bit less, but with zero it seems to work perfectly)
(just for discussion, not arguing)

sysex ok hehe, you avoid me headhaches, I will inspect the midi clock modules and see..
anyway I ve plenty of modules to look at so I can wait for the issue to be fixed, I start to spend my night patching with usine wich is awesome!!!! thank you senso, last month i dreamt of it, now it's on my screen! ;) ;) ;)
cheers

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 05 Jan 2009, 22:59


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2009-01-05T02:50:07+02:00 2009-01-05T02:50:07+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6949#p6949 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
thank u amiga,
syncing in the other way (usine master, live &electribe slave) seems to work a bit better..
buti not agreei had a very stable live-electribe config in the two direction (also i check a lot dcp, running bg pgms), but even on a normal computer it works great..., im gonna try to investigate the modules too, but sysex is quite a real unkown for me...
- first: it is true, even the master midi clock preset does not work perfectly yet (latest version is quite ok)
- 'the two direction': so you had the computer as slave (press start on electribe, not on computer): be aware that the speed (bpm) of your songs do matter: fast song -> less stable sync. also the quality of the audio interface and/or midi interface does matter. cpu/ram of your computer does not matter (overall: I dont believe you had a rock solid sync with computer as slave, and optimization by turning of bg pgms/services does not much here)
- 'sysex': has nothing to do with midi clock

Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 05 Jan 2009, 01:50


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2009-01-05T02:33:52+02:00 2009-01-05T02:33:52+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6948#p6948 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> syncing in the other way (usine master, live &electribe slave) seems to work a bit better..
buti not agreei had a very stable live-electribe config in the two direction (also i check a lot dcp, running bg pgms), but even on a normal computer it works great..., im gonna try to investigate the modules too, but sysex is quite a real unkown for me...

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 05 Jan 2009, 01:33


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2009-01-04T21:18:48+02:00 2009-01-04T21:18:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6936#p6936 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
still a week newbie,

I couldn't figure out how to slave usine sync to any other daw/ext hardware
afaik slaving a computer is a bad idea anyway.
I would not know of any computer software that slaves tight to hardware.
this is not because of a lack of cpu power, its because usual OS have background threads running.
(still this is no excuse, my old amiga1200 slaves without problems (real multithreading!), also atari syncs tight).

workarounds:
- try with master clock, and slave the hw.
- new hw device: innerclock systems sync shift mk-II (does other things too, not cheap)
http://web.webhost4life.com/innerclock/ ... age&name=1

Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 04 Jan 2009, 20:18


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2009-01-04T17:56:38+02:00 2009-01-04T17:56:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6931#p6931 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 04 Jan 2009, 16:56


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2009-01-04T09:46:38+02:00 2009-01-04T09:46:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6923#p6923 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]> be sure he is working on..

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 04 Jan 2009, 08:46


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2009-01-04T01:33:05+02:00 2009-01-04T01:33:05+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&p=6918#p6918 <![CDATA[nb standard midi sync?]]>
I couldn't figure out how to slave usine sync to any other daw/ext hardware, I tried enabling MTC and MMC , also tried the midi clockIII modules, but I could'nt receive the classic start song, stable tempo midi clock. I am missing something?

the clock III seems to receive tempo but not start/stop and tempo is constantly changing and out of sync. I ve read it's an attempt;ok;
but there should be a more classic like other daws midi clock core gestion (imo)

Ive made a quick search in the forum and found it was a pb for other users, has the pb been evolving?

...cause sadly it make the use of using usine's remote, sequencers quite..useless if out of sync on the daw/harware lfos?
what is strange is that when I press play on live, an electribe (sayed to deal in mmc) starts on the fly and keep the tempo right away,
whereas usine doesn't start/sync tempo when i press play..
do I miss something? if not is it planned to be implemented?
othewise i m using lot of fun with usine, but this seems to me to be quite a real big issue for the potential...
cheers

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 04 Jan 2009, 00:33


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