basically i'm trying to build a patch emulating the pigtronix attack sustain pedal.
waoo , great !, i was on the point to ask if someone can built a kind of sustainer pedal , I've tried to find vst , but no results... will try your addon with pleasure !
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 17 Mar 2009, 12:39
After the "env follower " there is a " >= " module link to the db out pin. The db output IS a data value ( blue pin) with a -80db to +12 range. You need to convert yellow pin to blue one and the env follower do the job.
No worries, i'm doing at the moment - i was wondering if there was another way to do this that didn't involve the 'env follower'... i'm guessing not. also, for future reference, to prevent chattering you can use the 'hysteresis' module in the 'data manipulation' section of the browser, it's been suiting my end purpose better here.
and you're right, the gate module was a good starting point, but it's limited in it's attack time - basically i'm trying to build a patch emulating the pigtronix attack sustain pedal, and using the info we've already mentioned i've got it working fine - i just thought there would be a better way to convert the audio dB into data dB for threshold setting in my module than having to use the 'env follower' module and introducing the extra 1ms delay inherent in it's shortest attack/release time setting. whatever... i'll put the patch up in the add-ons when i'm finally satisfied with it.
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 17 Mar 2009, 12:19
]]>2009-03-17T10:59:00+02:002009-03-17T10:59:00+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7885#p7885After the "env follower " there is a " >= " module link to the db out pin. The db output IS a data value ( blue pin) with a -80db to +12 range. You need to convert yellow pin to blue one and the env follower do the job. To avoid "chattering" set the release time according to your needs. If you need a long attack time, you can set it up to 3000 sec.... The "gate " patch is a good starting point , don't you think? About the "db to multi coeff" , it doesn't convert yellow pin in blue one. He converts db values ( blue pin from env follower for example ), into a 0 to 1 value. The multi coeff to db do the same thing in reverse ( 0 to 1 to db value).
Statistics: Posted by moody33 — 17 Mar 2009, 09:59
]]>2009-03-17T01:48:58+02:002009-03-17T01:48:58+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7882#p7882this is diificult to set a threshold for as the numbers are so small and the logarithmic dB scale meaning that an tiny difference is a large level change. what i want is a numerical output of the dB value that the wire between them is carrying - and so far the only way i've seen to do that is take the dB data output from the envelope follower... there must be something else i'm either missing or don't understand here
i'm intrigued by what you've said about the "db to multiplication coeff" module, as i assumed that it would do what you've described, but again in practice it doesn't seem to me to be doing that - when i plug an audio source (from a yellow pin) into it i get values around 0.99 constantly coming out of it even though i know there's more variation than that....
on reflection, what i guess i'm trying to do is simply convert the dB (eg -21dB) value in a yellow audio wire into a value readable by a data input (eg still say -21dB but in a different format that the math modules can use)? is there an easy way to do this that i'm too slow to notice?
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 17 Mar 2009, 00:48
]]>2009-03-16T14:29:18+02:002009-03-16T14:29:18+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7863#p7863You have also a "db to multiplication coeff" converter module (in math folder). This module convert db value to a 0-1 range values. On the "envelopp follower module" , you have also an "env" output pin. this output values beetween 0 and 1. The "peak follower" module trigger a gate signal if input is higher than the threshold.
Hope it help/
Statistics: Posted by moody33 — 16 Mar 2009, 13:29
]]>2009-03-16T04:53:39+02:002009-03-16T04:53:39+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7860#p7860 thanks C
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 16 Mar 2009, 03:53
]]>BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2009-03-17T23:20:02+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/14242009-03-17T23:20:02+02:002009-03-17T23:20:02+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7894#p7894Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 17 Mar 2009, 22:20
]]>2009-03-17T13:39:54+02:002009-03-17T13:39:54+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7888#p7888
basically i'm trying to build a patch emulating the pigtronix attack sustain pedal.
waoo , great !, i was on the point to ask if someone can built a kind of sustainer pedal , I've tried to find vst , but no results... will try your addon with pleasure !
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 17 Mar 2009, 12:39
After the "env follower " there is a " >= " module link to the db out pin. The db output IS a data value ( blue pin) with a -80db to +12 range. You need to convert yellow pin to blue one and the env follower do the job.
No worries, i'm doing at the moment - i was wondering if there was another way to do this that didn't involve the 'env follower'... i'm guessing not. also, for future reference, to prevent chattering you can use the 'hysteresis' module in the 'data manipulation' section of the browser, it's been suiting my end purpose better here.
and you're right, the gate module was a good starting point, but it's limited in it's attack time - basically i'm trying to build a patch emulating the pigtronix attack sustain pedal, and using the info we've already mentioned i've got it working fine - i just thought there would be a better way to convert the audio dB into data dB for threshold setting in my module than having to use the 'env follower' module and introducing the extra 1ms delay inherent in it's shortest attack/release time setting. whatever... i'll put the patch up in the add-ons when i'm finally satisfied with it.
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 17 Mar 2009, 12:19
]]>2009-03-17T10:59:00+02:002009-03-17T10:59:00+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7885#p7885After the "env follower " there is a " >= " module link to the db out pin. The db output IS a data value ( blue pin) with a -80db to +12 range. You need to convert yellow pin to blue one and the env follower do the job. To avoid "chattering" set the release time according to your needs. If you need a long attack time, you can set it up to 3000 sec.... The "gate " patch is a good starting point , don't you think? About the "db to multi coeff" , it doesn't convert yellow pin in blue one. He converts db values ( blue pin from env follower for example ), into a 0 to 1 value. The multi coeff to db do the same thing in reverse ( 0 to 1 to db value).
Statistics: Posted by moody33 — 17 Mar 2009, 09:59
]]>2009-03-17T01:48:58+02:002009-03-17T01:48:58+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7882#p7882this is diificult to set a threshold for as the numbers are so small and the logarithmic dB scale meaning that an tiny difference is a large level change. what i want is a numerical output of the dB value that the wire between them is carrying - and so far the only way i've seen to do that is take the dB data output from the envelope follower... there must be something else i'm either missing or don't understand here
i'm intrigued by what you've said about the "db to multiplication coeff" module, as i assumed that it would do what you've described, but again in practice it doesn't seem to me to be doing that - when i plug an audio source (from a yellow pin) into it i get values around 0.99 constantly coming out of it even though i know there's more variation than that....
on reflection, what i guess i'm trying to do is simply convert the dB (eg -21dB) value in a yellow audio wire into a value readable by a data input (eg still say -21dB but in a different format that the math modules can use)? is there an easy way to do this that i'm too slow to notice?
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 17 Mar 2009, 00:48
]]>2009-03-16T14:29:18+02:002009-03-16T14:29:18+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7863#p7863You have also a "db to multiplication coeff" converter module (in math folder). This module convert db value to a 0-1 range values. On the "envelopp follower module" , you have also an "env" output pin. this output values beetween 0 and 1. The "peak follower" module trigger a gate signal if input is higher than the threshold.
Hope it help/
Statistics: Posted by moody33 — 16 Mar 2009, 13:29
]]>2009-03-16T04:53:39+02:002009-03-16T04:53:39+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=7860#p7860 thanks C
Statistics: Posted by Clearscreen — 16 Mar 2009, 03:53