hmm..strange issue. the only thing i could think of is that ur patch is maybe not well built? could u make a screenshot?
Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 31 Oct 2009, 11:22
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I don't have time at the moment, but perhaps I'll try to post some audio examples tomorrow of the Usine fader sound versus native VST GUI controls. Would that be of any use?
Statistics: Posted by flook — 30 Oct 2009, 07:42
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I know that it's strange to have a dependency between 'refresh speed' and vst params update. It's an historical setting, when computeurs was slow (usine is 13 years old now!). Now with modern computers it has no sense.
This small issue will be solved in the V5: just a direct refresh without latency.
But there is a small tip to solve you pb:
- go in the UsineVst directory then in /files/
- find Default-settings.ini and dbl click on it to open in a text editor (notepad)
- find somewhere the line 'INDEXrefresh speed=2'
- replace this line by 'INDEXrefresh speed=0'
- save the file.
restart your DAW and reload your vst.
et hop!!!
Statistics: Posted by senso — 29 Oct 2009, 08:48
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But that's an interesting setting in the standalone application - is there a reason it couldn't be added as a setting in the Usine VST, since it's not strictly ASIO driver-related? Or is it? It sounds like exactly what I need: faster data transmission from faders to VST parameters.
Statistics: Posted by flook — 29 Oct 2009, 06:28
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Statistics: Posted by senso — 28 Oct 2009, 08:15
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Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 28 Oct 2009, 07:54
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It's great that this problem doesn't exist in the standalone application, but my primary use for Usine is going to be an effects processor for my Ableton Live rig. Running Usine as a VST effect itself is mandatory.
Can anyone reproduce this problem in the Usine VST? Is it not a problem in the Pro version? I'd be happy to buy it if that's the case!
Statistics: Posted by flook — 28 Oct 2009, 02:43
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I'm connecting the faders/knobs directly to the VST inlets, for controls such as filter, pitch, etc. depending on the instrument/effect I'm using.
Statistics: Posted by flook — 27 Oct 2009, 23:25
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Statistics: Posted by bsork — 27 Oct 2009, 07:38
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The precision setting is set to the default, which seems to be the maximum precision allowed in Usine. The jumpiness is slightly diminished by holding "shift" while tweaking the fader, but this doesn't help me out when controlling effects via my MIDI controller. The jumpy sounding parameter changes can best be described as though the effect's parameter is trying to "catch up" to Usine's fader changes. Instead of a filter cutoff sweeping smoothly in real-time, it jumps between intervals as I move the fader up and down - like a more extreme "stair-stepping" effect sometimes heard on digital synth parameters.
I'll try this out in Usine standalone tonight using both VST effects and instruments to see if it behaves the same as the Usine VST. I tried a similar setup with Native Instruments Kore 2 as a VST effect/VST host last night and found that its virtual knobs controlled my effects with no jumpiness at all on the same PC, in the same host.
Statistics: Posted by flook — 26 Oct 2009, 21:02
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BTW, in Usine, a knob is just a different looking fader, so it's not surprising that you don't notice any difference with those.
Statistics: Posted by bsork — 26 Oct 2009, 14:03
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but it's nor really "normal " to have such problems , have you the same in other host..?
have you try in the standalone version of Usine..?
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 26 Oct 2009, 12:36
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This happens on two different PCs I've tried, running Usine as a VST in both Ableton Live and Cubase as a host. I'm running the free 4.22f version and thus do not get dual core optimization, but this doesn't seem to be a performance issue so much as a fader data interpolation issue. In fact, it behaves the same when using a Usine knob control. I'm using the default "prec" (x.xxxxx) and "scale" (normal) settings for these controls. I get the same results when controlling these Usine parameters via a USB MIDI controller.
Is there anything I can do to smooth this out? This is unfortunately making my otherwise amazing live Usine FX rack rather useless.
Statistics: Posted by flook — 26 Oct 2009, 05:10
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