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BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2013-02-19T11:23:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/34452013-02-19T11:23:04+02:002013-02-19T11:23:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25474#p25474 your patch is working perfectly now,very smooth and really well thought ! Perfect tool for me now.
Now the repetitions are clear and fluid
Thanks again !
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 19 Feb 2013, 10:23
]]>2013-02-17T07:24:37+02:002013-02-17T07:24:37+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25455#p25455 maybe I've finished working on it....
Please check out, if it works correctly and give me feedback. And anyone else is also invited to do that. I included a Midi gate (like a gate for audio) and "block time", which eliminates doubled notes if they are played almost at the same time. Have fun!
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 17 Feb 2013, 06:24
]]>2013-02-15T09:56:55+02:002013-02-15T09:56:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25405#p25405Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 15 Feb 2013, 08:56
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2013-02-11T11:35:50+02:002013-02-11T11:35:50+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25381#p25381I did much progress last night with the midi delay. It works pretty well now. There's only one thing I wanna fix before posting it. You'll have to wait maybe another few days since I have less time this week. Have a nice day, too!
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 11 Feb 2013, 10:35
]]>2013-02-11T11:08:21+02:002013-02-11T11:08:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25380#p25380 Really thank you t for Pizmidi patch you made, really cool one . I think that now i can carry on my Midi delay frenzy adventure with ease .
Anyway if you manage to improve the Usine patch it will be a bonus !
Thanks again and have a nice a day !
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 11 Feb 2013, 10:08
]]>2013-02-10T02:09:21+02:002013-02-10T02:09:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25372#p25372 You're not right when saying there is no other plugin like that. Do you know the piz midi plugins? The original site is down at the moment, but you can download here.
-> you have to choose one of the pizmidi ZIP files
The Plugins are really helpful when working with MIDI
Since there is no GUI in Usine, I built one to test their Midi Delay PizMidi Midi Delay GUI
If you try it out, you'll recognize that there happen the same effects like in my patch (shortened noted). But when you restrict the feedback limit, you can get good results. But that's why I'll work on it... But progress is slow...
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 10 Feb 2013, 01:09
]]>2013-02-09T10:14:36+02:002013-02-09T10:14:36+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25365#p25365 Thanks a lot for trying and spending time on that. I will test your last patch today and let you know . I think it's a good challenge because there is no other plugin like that around
Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 09 Feb 2013, 09:14
]]>2013-02-08T16:27:45+02:002013-02-08T16:27:45+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25357#p25357 I tried a lot now. It's really a problem of Midi limitation. I also tried the PizMidi delay (is a VST) and it deals with the same problems. If you have 2 similar tones playing at the same time ba bit delayed, there is now way to figure out, which Note Off belongs to which note. I think there is a solution to filter out the unwnted Note Offs, but it seems to be very complex. Also different Note On values get in conflict. Thats why you had fade outs. The only workaround for now, is to eliminate all Note Off Data.
The problem is that you cannot use sounds which need a Note Off Value. And you cannot play notes with different length. But maybe it fits your needs.
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 08 Feb 2013, 15:27
]]>2013-02-07T23:41:30+02:002013-02-07T23:41:30+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25352#p25352 you don't do anything wrong. I couldn't get the effect of fading. I only recognized shorter notes. And this can only be a poroblem inside the two scripts. I also get shorter notes with only one note in the piano roll and the midi delay module. There seems to be a conflict, handling the Note Off and On values. Since I am not very good in scripting, it will be very hard to solve the problem. Maybe somone else could help?
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 07 Feb 2013, 22:41
]]>2013-02-06T10:11:55+02:002013-02-06T10:11:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25340#p25340 After testing a bit more the patch, i 'm facing some interogation.First of all,when the sync mode is on, the note length are not regular, so i can hear during the first bar the repetition quite well, but after that the repetition fade out, even with the feedback knob at 0 ? This happen with every quantized values.
I have confirmation while recording the midi out of the delay. The first bar is well recorded but then at the second bar , the note became really shorter ?
What am i doing wrong ?
Thanks
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 06 Feb 2013, 09:11
]]>2013-02-05T16:41:17+02:002013-02-05T16:41:17+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25333#p25333sometimes it's easier then it seems to be
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 05 Feb 2013, 15:41
]]>2013-02-05T11:07:06+02:002013-02-05T11:07:06+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25330#p25330 The patch is just perfect, it's really really useful to me ! That's exactly what i needed for making endless grooves ...
Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 05 Feb 2013, 10:07
]]>2013-02-05T09:49:03+02:002013-02-05T09:49:03+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25329#p25329Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 05 Feb 2013, 08:49
]]>2013-02-05T00:57:40+02:002013-02-05T00:57:40+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25327#p25327after making the patch for noise2sine I decided to extend the original "Midi delay + feedback + pitch" patch from the Usine library with some quantize options:
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 04 Feb 2013, 23:57
]]>2013-02-04T20:38:11+02:002013-02-04T20:38:11+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25324#p25324 if I understand right, your main problem is to do a quantization on the midi delay script. I made a patch using the clock beat patch, which also allows to do triplets. You can choose between ms and quantize. Triplets are included in the clock beat patch as default (values 1/12th for triplets and 1/24th for a sextuplet) Other divisions could be easily added.
I don't really understand, what you mean with 3/4 or 6/8 to add. Let's say, you have 4/4 running in usine. Do you want a delay on every 3rd beat? For doing such things, you'd have to modify the clock beat patch. Let me know, if you need help with it.
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 04 Feb 2013, 19:38
]]>2013-02-04T10:57:47+02:002013-02-04T10:57:47+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25321#p25321simply drag a new one and choose16
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 04 Feb 2013, 09:57
]]>2013-02-04T10:37:55+02:002013-02-04T10:37:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25320#p25320 I can't add the new values in the maper value module ! it get stuck to seven.how can i add more ? ( i have aplied poly without sucess)
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 04 Feb 2013, 09:37
]]>2012-11-07T17:46:04+02:002012-11-07T17:46:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24761#p24761 Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 07 Nov 2012, 16:46
]]>2012-11-07T17:40:28+02:002012-11-07T17:40:28+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24760#p24760not exactly, there are 3 triplets of quarter note in 2 quarter notes 3 triplets of height note in 2 height notes
so the factor value - the triplet of quarter note is 2/3 - the triplet of height note is 1/3 - the triplet of sixteen note is 1/6 senso++++
]]>2012-11-07T17:15:01+02:002012-11-07T17:15:01+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24758#p24758so a triplet of quavers is a quarter note /3 a triplet of quarter note is a half note /3
so here could be ( 2 x 1 ) / 3 = 0,6666666 ?
if an expert can confirm...
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 07 Nov 2012, 16:15
]]>2012-11-07T15:08:49+02:002012-11-07T15:08:49+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24757#p24757 Can anyone help ??
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 07 Nov 2012, 14:08
]]>2012-09-28T12:20:17+02:002012-09-28T12:20:17+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24405#p24405Apply polyphony will set the 4 voices to the same values for listbox and mapper modules
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 28 Sep 2012, 12:20
]]>2012-09-28T10:22:56+02:002012-09-28T10:22:56+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24400#p24400 I couldn't make the Triplet quatification working .... I think i didn't find where and how i should write the values you told me ? And i don't know about polyphony ....
Can you help ?
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 28 Sep 2012, 10:22
]]>2012-05-29T11:41:28+02:002012-05-29T11:41:28+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=23512#p23512so yes the sub-patch Tempo to delay is used in the patch I've send you. now you can add your own division, add for example1/24 in the list box and in the mapper value module add the result ( so 1/24 = 0.041666666..) in the corresponding line and don't forget to apply the polyphony.
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 29 May 2012, 11:41
]]>2012-05-29T10:05:37+02:002012-05-29T10:05:37+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=23510#p23510 I have tried the patch you told me without any success. Maybe i didn't express my needs correctly. I wanted triplet values like Tripet, 1/24/ ; 1/48 ?
Is the patch Tempo to Delay can help in any way ?
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 29 May 2012, 10:05
]]>BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2013-02-19T11:23:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/34452013-02-19T11:23:04+02:002013-02-19T11:23:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25474#p25474 your patch is working perfectly now,very smooth and really well thought ! Perfect tool for me now.
Now the repetitions are clear and fluid
Thanks again !
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 19 Feb 2013, 10:23
]]>2013-02-17T07:24:37+02:002013-02-17T07:24:37+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25455#p25455 maybe I've finished working on it....
Please check out, if it works correctly and give me feedback. And anyone else is also invited to do that. I included a Midi gate (like a gate for audio) and "block time", which eliminates doubled notes if they are played almost at the same time. Have fun!
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 17 Feb 2013, 06:24
]]>2013-02-15T09:56:55+02:002013-02-15T09:56:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25405#p25405Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 15 Feb 2013, 08:56
]]>2013-02-11T11:35:50+02:002013-02-11T11:35:50+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25381#p25381I did much progress last night with the midi delay. It works pretty well now. There's only one thing I wanna fix before posting it. You'll have to wait maybe another few days since I have less time this week. Have a nice day, too!
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 11 Feb 2013, 10:35
]]>2013-02-11T11:08:21+02:002013-02-11T11:08:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25380#p25380 Really thank you t for Pizmidi patch you made, really cool one . I think that now i can carry on my Midi delay frenzy adventure with ease .
Anyway if you manage to improve the Usine patch it will be a bonus !
Thanks again and have a nice a day !
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 11 Feb 2013, 10:08
]]>2013-02-10T02:09:21+02:002013-02-10T02:09:21+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25372#p25372 You're not right when saying there is no other plugin like that. Do you know the piz midi plugins? The original site is down at the moment, but you can download here.
-> you have to choose one of the pizmidi ZIP files
The Plugins are really helpful when working with MIDI
Since there is no GUI in Usine, I built one to test their Midi Delay PizMidi Midi Delay GUI
If you try it out, you'll recognize that there happen the same effects like in my patch (shortened noted). But when you restrict the feedback limit, you can get good results. But that's why I'll work on it... But progress is slow...
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 10 Feb 2013, 01:09
]]>2013-02-09T10:14:36+02:002013-02-09T10:14:36+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25365#p25365 Thanks a lot for trying and spending time on that. I will test your last patch today and let you know . I think it's a good challenge because there is no other plugin like that around
Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 09 Feb 2013, 09:14
]]>2013-02-08T16:27:45+02:002013-02-08T16:27:45+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25357#p25357 I tried a lot now. It's really a problem of Midi limitation. I also tried the PizMidi delay (is a VST) and it deals with the same problems. If you have 2 similar tones playing at the same time ba bit delayed, there is now way to figure out, which Note Off belongs to which note. I think there is a solution to filter out the unwnted Note Offs, but it seems to be very complex. Also different Note On values get in conflict. Thats why you had fade outs. The only workaround for now, is to eliminate all Note Off Data.
The problem is that you cannot use sounds which need a Note Off Value. And you cannot play notes with different length. But maybe it fits your needs.
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 08 Feb 2013, 15:27
]]>2013-02-07T23:41:30+02:002013-02-07T23:41:30+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25352#p25352 you don't do anything wrong. I couldn't get the effect of fading. I only recognized shorter notes. And this can only be a poroblem inside the two scripts. I also get shorter notes with only one note in the piano roll and the midi delay module. There seems to be a conflict, handling the Note Off and On values. Since I am not very good in scripting, it will be very hard to solve the problem. Maybe somone else could help?
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 07 Feb 2013, 22:41
]]>2013-02-06T10:11:55+02:002013-02-06T10:11:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25340#p25340 After testing a bit more the patch, i 'm facing some interogation.First of all,when the sync mode is on, the note length are not regular, so i can hear during the first bar the repetition quite well, but after that the repetition fade out, even with the feedback knob at 0 ? This happen with every quantized values.
I have confirmation while recording the midi out of the delay. The first bar is well recorded but then at the second bar , the note became really shorter ?
What am i doing wrong ?
Thanks
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 06 Feb 2013, 09:11
]]>2013-02-05T16:41:17+02:002013-02-05T16:41:17+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25333#p25333sometimes it's easier then it seems to be
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 05 Feb 2013, 15:41
]]>2013-02-05T11:07:06+02:002013-02-05T11:07:06+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25330#p25330 The patch is just perfect, it's really really useful to me ! That's exactly what i needed for making endless grooves ...
Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 05 Feb 2013, 10:07
]]>2013-02-05T09:49:03+02:002013-02-05T09:49:03+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25329#p25329Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 05 Feb 2013, 08:49
]]>2013-02-05T00:57:40+02:002013-02-05T00:57:40+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25327#p25327after making the patch for noise2sine I decided to extend the original "Midi delay + feedback + pitch" patch from the Usine library with some quantize options:
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 04 Feb 2013, 23:57
]]>2013-02-04T20:38:11+02:002013-02-04T20:38:11+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25324#p25324 if I understand right, your main problem is to do a quantization on the midi delay script. I made a patch using the clock beat patch, which also allows to do triplets. You can choose between ms and quantize. Triplets are included in the clock beat patch as default (values 1/12th for triplets and 1/24th for a sextuplet) Other divisions could be easily added.
I don't really understand, what you mean with 3/4 or 6/8 to add. Let's say, you have 4/4 running in usine. Do you want a delay on every 3rd beat? For doing such things, you'd have to modify the clock beat patch. Let me know, if you need help with it.
Statistics: Posted by percuson — 04 Feb 2013, 19:38
]]>2013-02-04T10:57:47+02:002013-02-04T10:57:47+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25321#p25321simply drag a new one and choose16
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 04 Feb 2013, 09:57
]]>2013-02-04T10:37:55+02:002013-02-04T10:37:55+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=25320#p25320 I can't add the new values in the maper value module ! it get stuck to seven.how can i add more ? ( i have aplied poly without sucess)
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 04 Feb 2013, 09:37
]]>2012-11-07T17:46:04+02:002012-11-07T17:46:04+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24761#p24761 Thanks again
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 07 Nov 2012, 16:46
]]>2012-11-07T17:40:28+02:002012-11-07T17:40:28+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24760#p24760not exactly, there are 3 triplets of quarter note in 2 quarter notes 3 triplets of height note in 2 height notes
so the factor value - the triplet of quarter note is 2/3 - the triplet of height note is 1/3 - the triplet of sixteen note is 1/6 senso++++
]]>2012-11-07T17:15:01+02:002012-11-07T17:15:01+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24758#p24758so a triplet of quavers is a quarter note /3 a triplet of quarter note is a half note /3
so here could be ( 2 x 1 ) / 3 = 0,6666666 ?
if an expert can confirm...
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 07 Nov 2012, 16:15
]]>2012-11-07T15:08:49+02:002012-11-07T15:08:49+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24757#p24757 Can anyone help ??
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 07 Nov 2012, 14:08
]]>2012-09-28T12:20:17+02:002012-09-28T12:20:17+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24405#p24405Apply polyphony will set the 4 voices to the same values for listbox and mapper modules
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 28 Sep 2012, 12:20
]]>2012-09-28T10:22:56+02:002012-09-28T10:22:56+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=24400#p24400 I couldn't make the Triplet quatification working .... I think i didn't find where and how i should write the values you told me ? And i don't know about polyphony ....
Can you help ?
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 28 Sep 2012, 10:22
]]>2012-05-29T11:41:28+02:002012-05-29T11:41:28+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=23512#p23512so yes the sub-patch Tempo to delay is used in the patch I've send you. now you can add your own division, add for example1/24 in the list box and in the mapper value module add the result ( so 1/24 = 0.041666666..) in the corresponding line and don't forget to apply the polyphony.
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 29 May 2012, 11:41
]]>2012-05-29T10:05:37+02:002012-05-29T10:05:37+02:00https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3445&p=23510#p23510 I have tried the patch you told me without any success. Maybe i didn't express my needs correctly. I wanted triplet values like Tripet, 1/24/ ; 1/48 ?
Is the patch Tempo to Delay can help in any way ?
cheers
Statistics: Posted by noise2sine — 29 May 2012, 10:05