ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3953 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27223#p27223 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2013, 16:17


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2013-07-15T16:04:54+02:00 2013-07-15T16:04:54+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27222#p27222 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
Welcome ynohtna,
the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.
this is normal behavior, when audio engine is OFF, some calculation are not done in patch
Good to know, thanks!

Will these visual updates propagate in the new version when the engine is run with no audio output? (I'm building custom MIDI interfaces.)

Statistics: Posted by ynohtna — 15 Jul 2013, 16:04


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2013-07-15T13:02:24+02:00 2013-07-15T13:02:24+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27214#p27214 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

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2013-07-15T12:59:41+02:00 2013-07-15T12:59:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27212#p27212 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2013, 12:59


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2013-07-15T12:11:41+02:00 2013-07-15T12:11:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27209#p27209 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
If this is the case (having the audio engine running) I might want to consider an output disable option when editing....for pre-editing waveforms (preset waveform)....obviously much more fun doing live...but in some cases a user might want to prepare several waveforms first before a performance.

thanks for the help and discussion...very much helpful as always!
-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 15 Jul 2013, 12:11


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2013-07-13T12:23:36+02:00 2013-07-13T12:23:36+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27205#p27205 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.
this is normal behavior, when audio engine is OFF, some calculation are not done in patch

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 13 Jul 2013, 12:23


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2013-07-13T11:34:37+02:00 2013-07-13T11:34:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27204#p27204 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
In my case I have a switch which toggles the colour of panel headers, but the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.

Statistics: Posted by ynohtna — 13 Jul 2013, 11:34


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2013-07-12T14:12:47+02:00 2013-07-12T14:12:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27192#p27192 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

Thanks for your feedback and help everyone! Will get this figured out.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 14:12


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2013-07-12T09:34:38+02:00 2013-07-12T09:34:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27187#p27187 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> yes, it's the normal feature, see several curves in transparency and edit each of them

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 09:34


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2013-07-12T09:24:37+02:00 2013-07-12T09:24:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27186#p27186 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by cmodica — 12 Jul 2013, 09:24


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2013-07-12T09:10:29+02:00 2013-07-12T09:10:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27185#p27185 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> so works for win 32 and 64
now we have to find why it don't work for you sephult..

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 09:10


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2013-07-12T09:05:05+02:00 2013-07-12T09:05:05+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27184#p27184 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 12 Jul 2013, 09:05


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2013-07-12T08:33:21+02:00 2013-07-12T08:33:21+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27183#p27183 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
If someone else can confirm on an other machine could be interesting...

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 08:33


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2013-07-12T02:03:31+02:00 2013-07-12T02:03:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27179#p27179 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 02:03


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2013-07-12T02:02:35+02:00 2013-07-12T02:02:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27178#p27178 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
It seems that when the Syncro/Engine is stopped I run into the inconsistencies, where I am not seeing these with it running.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 02:02


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2013-07-11T14:47:25+02:00 2013-07-11T14:47:25+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27167#p27167 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
Although I am not using audio.
but audio engine is running ? ( next version will add the No audio button)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 14:47


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2013-07-11T13:39:24+02:00 2013-07-11T13:39:24+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27163#p27163 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:39


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2013-07-11T13:30:59+02:00 2013-07-11T13:30:59+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27162#p27162 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> maybe some one can confirm ..?

about work, i can understand that ! :)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 13:30


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2013-07-11T13:11:52+02:00 2013-07-11T13:11:52+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27161#p27161 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> I can't be doing this stuff before I go to work, makes me want to stay home and work with HollyHock all day :)

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:11


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2013-07-11T13:08:38+02:00 2013-07-11T13:08:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27160#p27160 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... elayed.wkp

It seems to be worse when delayed between the two parameters. I injected a delay script in between to see if it was a simultaneous issue or a delay issue.
It seems to be a functional issue rather than a graphic issue, as you can only edit the curve that is "on-top"

I guess I am running into cases where one path is getting delayed and the "On-top" parameter is not reacting properly.
Hopefully this delay allows you to see what I am running into more clearly.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:08


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2013-07-11T13:03:03+02:00 2013-07-11T13:03:03+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27158#p27158 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> cause it's the most important or i misunderstood..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 13:03


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2013-07-11T12:47:23+02:00 2013-07-11T12:47:23+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27157#p27157 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

Here is a screen-shot, as you can see "Select" is yellow, and the curve is actually on the bottom still.
I can get it to work and at times it seems very consistent, however it seems to hiccup and not work and oddly in my current experience is that the states are opposite now "Yellow=blue Curve, etc...." clicking the Select button multiple times after this sometimes resolves the issue.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 12:47


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2013-07-11T12:37:29+02:00 2013-07-11T12:37:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27156#p27156 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 12:37


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2013-07-11T09:15:47+02:00 2013-07-11T09:15:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27149#p27149 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Download

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2013-07-11T01:27:47+02:00 2013-07-11T01:27:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27144#p27144 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... le=LFO.wkp

Above is the basic workspace to show example.

Working on the basics to build an LFO studio, however I am having issues with the "On Top" Parameter.
I have two point curves overlaid, and a Select button to switch between which one is to be edited.
It seems that the response can be inconsistent....anyone experience these problems?

I think this might be a bug.

-Sephult

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 01:27


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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3953 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 2013-07-15T16:17:06+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27223#p27223 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2013, 16:17


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Welcome ynohtna,
the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.
this is normal behavior, when audio engine is OFF, some calculation are not done in patch
Good to know, thanks!

Will these visual updates propagate in the new version when the engine is run with no audio output? (I'm building custom MIDI interfaces.)

Statistics: Posted by ynohtna — 15 Jul 2013, 16:04


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2013-07-15T13:02:24+02:00 2013-07-15T13:02:24+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27214#p27214 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 15 Jul 2013, 13:02


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2013-07-15T12:59:41+02:00 2013-07-15T12:59:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27212#p27212 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2013, 12:59


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2013-07-15T12:11:41+02:00 2013-07-15T12:11:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27209#p27209 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
If this is the case (having the audio engine running) I might want to consider an output disable option when editing....for pre-editing waveforms (preset waveform)....obviously much more fun doing live...but in some cases a user might want to prepare several waveforms first before a performance.

thanks for the help and discussion...very much helpful as always!
-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 15 Jul 2013, 12:11


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2013-07-13T12:23:36+02:00 2013-07-13T12:23:36+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27205#p27205 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.
this is normal behavior, when audio engine is OFF, some calculation are not done in patch

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 13 Jul 2013, 12:23


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2013-07-13T11:34:37+02:00 2013-07-13T11:34:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27204#p27204 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
In my case I have a switch which toggles the colour of panel headers, but the colour won't update properly if the audio engine is paused.

Statistics: Posted by ynohtna — 13 Jul 2013, 11:34


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2013-07-12T14:12:47+02:00 2013-07-12T14:12:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27192#p27192 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

Thanks for your feedback and help everyone! Will get this figured out.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 14:12


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2013-07-12T09:34:38+02:00 2013-07-12T09:34:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27187#p27187 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> yes, it's the normal feature, see several curves in transparency and edit each of them

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 09:34


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2013-07-12T09:24:37+02:00 2013-07-12T09:24:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27186#p27186 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by cmodica — 12 Jul 2013, 09:24


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2013-07-12T09:10:29+02:00 2013-07-12T09:10:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27185#p27185 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> so works for win 32 and 64
now we have to find why it don't work for you sephult..

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 09:10


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2013-07-12T09:05:05+02:00 2013-07-12T09:05:05+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27184#p27184 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 12 Jul 2013, 09:05


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2013-07-12T08:33:21+02:00 2013-07-12T08:33:21+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27183#p27183 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
If someone else can confirm on an other machine could be interesting...

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 12 Jul 2013, 08:33


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2013-07-12T02:03:31+02:00 2013-07-12T02:03:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27179#p27179 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 02:03


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2013-07-12T02:02:35+02:00 2013-07-12T02:02:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27178#p27178 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
It seems that when the Syncro/Engine is stopped I run into the inconsistencies, where I am not seeing these with it running.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 12 Jul 2013, 02:02


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2013-07-11T14:47:25+02:00 2013-07-11T14:47:25+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27167#p27167 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>
Although I am not using audio.
but audio engine is running ? ( next version will add the No audio button)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 14:47


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2013-07-11T13:39:24+02:00 2013-07-11T13:39:24+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27163#p27163 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:39


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2013-07-11T13:30:59+02:00 2013-07-11T13:30:59+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27162#p27162 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> maybe some one can confirm ..?

about work, i can understand that ! :)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 13:30


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2013-07-11T13:11:52+02:00 2013-07-11T13:11:52+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27161#p27161 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> I can't be doing this stuff before I go to work, makes me want to stay home and work with HollyHock all day :)

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:11


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2013-07-11T13:08:38+02:00 2013-07-11T13:08:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27160#p27160 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... elayed.wkp

It seems to be worse when delayed between the two parameters. I injected a delay script in between to see if it was a simultaneous issue or a delay issue.
It seems to be a functional issue rather than a graphic issue, as you can only edit the curve that is "on-top"

I guess I am running into cases where one path is getting delayed and the "On-top" parameter is not reacting properly.
Hopefully this delay allows you to see what I am running into more clearly.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 13:08


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2013-07-11T13:03:03+02:00 2013-07-11T13:03:03+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27158#p27158 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> cause it's the most important or i misunderstood..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 13:03


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2013-07-11T12:47:23+02:00 2013-07-11T12:47:23+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27157#p27157 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]>

Here is a screen-shot, as you can see "Select" is yellow, and the curve is actually on the bottom still.
I can get it to work and at times it seems very consistent, however it seems to hiccup and not work and oddly in my current experience is that the states are opposite now "Yellow=blue Curve, etc...." clicking the Select button multiple times after this sometimes resolves the issue.

-S

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 12:47


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2013-07-11T12:37:29+02:00 2013-07-11T12:37:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27156#p27156 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 12:37


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2013-07-11T09:15:47+02:00 2013-07-11T09:15:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27149#p27149 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> Download

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2013, 09:15


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2013-07-11T01:27:47+02:00 2013-07-11T01:27:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3953&p=27144#p27144 <![CDATA["On-Top" Parameter Inconsistencies]]> http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... le=LFO.wkp

Above is the basic workspace to show example.

Working on the basics to build an LFO studio, however I am having issues with the "On Top" Parameter.
I have two point curves overlaid, and a Select button to switch between which one is to be edited.
It seems that the response can be inconsistent....anyone experience these problems?

I think this might be a bug.

-Sephult

Statistics: Posted by sephult — 11 Jul 2013, 01:27


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