ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/4463 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=30008#p30008 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2014, 09:19


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2014-07-11T14:41:11+02:00 2014-07-11T14:41:11+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29978#p29978 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> to me also it was confusing, which is a good thing for you to know : for instance, you say general and classic use but having a master track is pretty normal I guess, and the "complex routing" that is mentioned encourages to think that using buses is not that complex ;-)

I purchase softwares or not according to two aspects :
* pratical : features, stability, etc..
* ethical : who did it with what spirit.
from what I read from senso (as well as the team helping here) before purchasing usine, I know it is made with really good heart and will.
. so I know that if there is a confusion, for sure it is not intentional. but it is really important for you to know how it can be read I guess.
if a big brand would have used big words such as AI but would not work the way I was lead to interpret it, believe me I would communicate that in a very "smiley-less" way
:)

I will inquire a bit more on the settings of buffer and block size, how it affects my playing,the latency, etc..

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 11 Jul 2014, 14:41


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2014-07-11T11:07:35+02:00 2014-07-11T11:07:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29967#p29967 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
and in the faq:

"The basic rules:

If buffer size >= bloc size: Usine will not add any latency to your soundcard, and this whatever the racks routing."

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2014, 11:07


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2014-07-11T10:51:11+02:00 2014-07-11T10:51:11+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29963#p29963 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
"Usine add a latency of 1 bloc size. In all cases, the latency added will not exceed a bloc size."

Now this is confusing, because I was pretty sure each bus you introduce adds a latency of 1 bloc. But the way it is written in the FAQ can be understood as the bus system will never introduce a latency > bloc size.

Statistics: Posted by ceasless — 11 Jul 2014, 10:51


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2014-07-11T10:38:44+02:00 2014-07-11T10:38:44+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29961#p29961 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> FAQ page answer the question and was created in November 2013..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2014, 10:38


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2014-07-11T10:16:56+02:00 2014-07-11T10:16:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29960#p29960 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by ceasless — 11 Jul 2014, 10:16


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2014-07-11T02:39:49+02:00 2014-07-11T02:39:49+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29956#p29956 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> I know it's the case of most audio appz, but unfortunately one of the main reasons I bought yours is because it is advertised like this "A powerful real-time process management, derived from Artificial Intelligence, gives a zero-latency buses calculation. In other words, unlike most of Digital Audio Workstations, there is no additional latency for complex audio routings".....

anyway, as the biggest latency reduction possible is my point for live playing reasons, I will stick with the patch in the stereo out device to avoid extra-latency.


reasonable tips for the leap motion I guess ;-) but too much light is bad for the health no ? :P

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 11 Jul 2014, 02:39


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2014-07-08T13:02:15+02:00 2014-07-08T13:02:15+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29928#p29928 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
about Leap motion, maybe better to use more light in the room than using cigarettes..? ;-)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 13:02


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2014-07-08T01:44:17+02:00 2014-07-08T01:44:17+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29917#p29917 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
after multiple comparisons... well, I found what was going on :
I happened to switch off a delay. that delay was making the sound stereo, while my guitar input is mono. when the plug-in receives a mono signal, it doesn't work. it needs to be fed in both its inputs.

I will still welcome your reply for the latency thing though.


PS : so, I lost hours because of that plug-in feature but I found a new trick thanks to that : the leap motion track cigarettes better than fingers. but actually I'm not sure if that's good in the end !

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:44


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2014-07-08T01:23:48+02:00 2014-07-08T01:23:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29916#p29916 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> for your questions : I'm on mac. maybe it's because the demo version ?

thanks for the tips for the master track (it replies a question from my previous post).
This method will not cause any latency right ? (because buses for example were advertised as zero latency, but that's actually not the case).

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:23


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2014-07-08T01:20:38+02:00 2014-07-08T01:20:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29915#p29915 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> now I understand that if I do something like this in the stereout device, it will be reflected in any workspace (wouldn't it be better it it were workspace sepcific btw ?).
thing is that with other workspace, it actually works... just not in the one workspace I need for my gig.
but, it is exactly the same information that comes into the plug-in !!! (motion information from the leap motion + audio).
This is crazy, I'm cursed.

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:20


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2014-07-08T01:15:37+02:00 2014-07-08T01:15:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29913#p29913 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
about creating a master track, you don't need to put the patch in the device, you only need to create a rack with your master effect and drag the racks you want on its input

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 01:15


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2014-07-08T00:55:33+02:00 2014-07-08T00:55:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29911#p29911 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:55


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2014-07-08T00:52:19+02:00 2014-07-08T00:52:19+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29910#p29910 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> same s*¨t happens.

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:52


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2014-07-08T00:39:23+02:00 2014-07-08T00:39:23+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29909#p29909 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> show all parameters for this plug-in ( top part of its Gui) do you see an inlet corresponding to this evolution button..?
if yes, what's happen if you link a switch to this inlet..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 00:39


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2014-07-08T00:21:50+02:00 2014-07-08T00:21:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29908#p29908 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
I have been having a lot of problems to build my workspace lately, but for a few dayz I finally manage to do a patch that works correctly.. until a sudden strange behavior.

I use the plug-in Evolution from GRM, controlled with the leap motion. For this plug-in to process the sound, you have to click / activate the "evolution" button. then you can tweak its parameters.
Without any reason, the plug-in now process the sound when the evolution button is not activated and, as a "consequence", because the button is not activated, it does not tweak the sound : moving parameters doesn't change a damned thing. it processes the sound with the default parameter.
I didn't link any new incoming data to the plug-in or the patch, it's the same for days !
I rewired the patch with a new instance but I still have this problem now !
For once I had positive results, and I'm really going nuts right now what could it be ?

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:21


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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/4463 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 2014-07-15T09:19:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=30008#p30008 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 15 Jul 2014, 09:19


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2014-07-11T14:41:11+02:00 2014-07-11T14:41:11+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29978#p29978 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> to me also it was confusing, which is a good thing for you to know : for instance, you say general and classic use but having a master track is pretty normal I guess, and the "complex routing" that is mentioned encourages to think that using buses is not that complex ;-)

I purchase softwares or not according to two aspects :
* pratical : features, stability, etc..
* ethical : who did it with what spirit.
from what I read from senso (as well as the team helping here) before purchasing usine, I know it is made with really good heart and will.
. so I know that if there is a confusion, for sure it is not intentional. but it is really important for you to know how it can be read I guess.
if a big brand would have used big words such as AI but would not work the way I was lead to interpret it, believe me I would communicate that in a very "smiley-less" way
:)

I will inquire a bit more on the settings of buffer and block size, how it affects my playing,the latency, etc..

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 11 Jul 2014, 14:41


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2014-07-11T11:07:35+02:00 2014-07-11T11:07:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29967#p29967 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
and in the faq:

"The basic rules:

If buffer size >= bloc size: Usine will not add any latency to your soundcard, and this whatever the racks routing."

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2014, 11:07


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2014-07-11T10:51:11+02:00 2014-07-11T10:51:11+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29963#p29963 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
"Usine add a latency of 1 bloc size. In all cases, the latency added will not exceed a bloc size."

Now this is confusing, because I was pretty sure each bus you introduce adds a latency of 1 bloc. But the way it is written in the FAQ can be understood as the bus system will never introduce a latency > bloc size.

Statistics: Posted by ceasless — 11 Jul 2014, 10:51


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2014-07-11T10:38:44+02:00 2014-07-11T10:38:44+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29961#p29961 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> FAQ page answer the question and was created in November 2013..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 Jul 2014, 10:38


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2014-07-11T10:16:56+02:00 2014-07-11T10:16:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29960#p29960 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by ceasless — 11 Jul 2014, 10:16


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2014-07-11T02:39:49+02:00 2014-07-11T02:39:49+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29956#p29956 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> I know it's the case of most audio appz, but unfortunately one of the main reasons I bought yours is because it is advertised like this "A powerful real-time process management, derived from Artificial Intelligence, gives a zero-latency buses calculation. In other words, unlike most of Digital Audio Workstations, there is no additional latency for complex audio routings".....

anyway, as the biggest latency reduction possible is my point for live playing reasons, I will stick with the patch in the stereo out device to avoid extra-latency.


reasonable tips for the leap motion I guess ;-) but too much light is bad for the health no ? :P

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 11 Jul 2014, 02:39


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2014-07-08T13:02:15+02:00 2014-07-08T13:02:15+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29928#p29928 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
about Leap motion, maybe better to use more light in the room than using cigarettes..? ;-)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 13:02


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2014-07-08T01:44:17+02:00 2014-07-08T01:44:17+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29917#p29917 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
after multiple comparisons... well, I found what was going on :
I happened to switch off a delay. that delay was making the sound stereo, while my guitar input is mono. when the plug-in receives a mono signal, it doesn't work. it needs to be fed in both its inputs.

I will still welcome your reply for the latency thing though.


PS : so, I lost hours because of that plug-in feature but I found a new trick thanks to that : the leap motion track cigarettes better than fingers. but actually I'm not sure if that's good in the end !

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:44


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2014-07-08T01:23:48+02:00 2014-07-08T01:23:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29916#p29916 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> for your questions : I'm on mac. maybe it's because the demo version ?

thanks for the tips for the master track (it replies a question from my previous post).
This method will not cause any latency right ? (because buses for example were advertised as zero latency, but that's actually not the case).

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:23


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2014-07-08T01:20:38+02:00 2014-07-08T01:20:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29915#p29915 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> now I understand that if I do something like this in the stereout device, it will be reflected in any workspace (wouldn't it be better it it were workspace sepcific btw ?).
thing is that with other workspace, it actually works... just not in the one workspace I need for my gig.
but, it is exactly the same information that comes into the plug-in !!! (motion information from the leap motion + audio).
This is crazy, I'm cursed.

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 01:20


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2014-07-08T01:15:37+02:00 2014-07-08T01:15:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29913#p29913 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
about creating a master track, you don't need to put the patch in the device, you only need to create a rack with your master effect and drag the racks you want on its input

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 01:15


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2014-07-08T00:55:33+02:00 2014-07-08T00:55:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29911#p29911 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:55


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2014-07-08T00:52:19+02:00 2014-07-08T00:52:19+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29910#p29910 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> same s*¨t happens.

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:52


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2014-07-08T00:39:23+02:00 2014-07-08T00:39:23+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29909#p29909 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]> show all parameters for this plug-in ( top part of its Gui) do you see an inlet corresponding to this evolution button..?
if yes, what's happen if you link a switch to this inlet..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 08 Jul 2014, 00:39


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2014-07-08T00:21:50+02:00 2014-07-08T00:21:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4463&p=29908#p29908 <![CDATA[sudden problem with a plug-in in a patch]]>
I have been having a lot of problems to build my workspace lately, but for a few dayz I finally manage to do a patch that works correctly.. until a sudden strange behavior.

I use the plug-in Evolution from GRM, controlled with the leap motion. For this plug-in to process the sound, you have to click / activate the "evolution" button. then you can tweak its parameters.
Without any reason, the plug-in now process the sound when the evolution button is not activated and, as a "consequence", because the button is not activated, it does not tweak the sound : moving parameters doesn't change a damned thing. it processes the sound with the default parameter.
I didn't link any new incoming data to the plug-in or the patch, it's the same for days !
I rewired the patch with a new instance but I still have this problem now !
For once I had positive results, and I'm really going nuts right now what could it be ?

Statistics: Posted by fractalist — 08 Jul 2014, 00:21


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