ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/497 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3638#p3638 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> and wait a little before add the VST3 in Usine. Steinberg isn't in a "dominant position" as in 1996 to impose his protocol. Too early, I prefer wait to how the community will react.

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2008-01-18T09:56:27+02:00 2008-01-18T09:56:27+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3637#p3637 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> I don't remember someone spoke about that ,what do you think ?
btw, steinberg release vst3 sdk kit this week

http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html

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2008-01-12T10:50:47+02:00 2008-01-12T10:50:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3579#p3579 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> seriously, vst with the new rack feature will be perfect !

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2008-01-11T22:07:40+02:00 2008-01-11T22:07:40+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3576#p3576 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> I was supposed to work during the Christmas break but I spent all my time on the newest version.
The vst version is almost clear in my mind : I know how to do that.
It's a big progress!
Since Microsoft had 6 month late for vista let me only 3...

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2008-01-11T21:38:37+02:00 2008-01-11T21:38:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3575#p3575 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Is the Vst version is in progress? How percent?

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2007-12-20T03:13:55+02:00 2007-12-20T03:13:55+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3498#p3498 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> have you considered to spill out small usine vst's which realize some of usine's unique features?
some smaller host dev's did that, probably to gain popularity (cockos reaplugs, fruity juice pack, xt/cakewalk/orion synths+sampler), albeit dont know yet what these plugins could do and wheter its a good strategy.

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2007-12-17T21:07:21+02:00 2007-12-17T21:07:21+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3480#p3480 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Looking forward to this (between two fat happy dinners) !

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2007-12-16T21:52:57+02:00 2007-12-16T21:52:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3478#p3478 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> French translation & VST version : wow !
By the way, I understand about the "international" stuff, english is spoken worldwide.
"Before Christmas", you mean.... this week ?
double wow !!

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since only 20% of visitors are french, I prefere write manuals directly in English. Finally it's simpler.
But the French translation is in progress. Normally, will arrive before christmas.

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2007-12-13T18:37:14+02:00 2007-12-13T18:37:14+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3469#p3469 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Awesome (and you're a gentleman).

(and veeeeery interested into having a french manual, because, you know... "Usine is to difficult for starters").

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have a nice day and a "happy coding",

Goyya

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2007-11-29T23:06:27+02:00 2007-11-29T23:06:27+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3361#p3361 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> But the option of raintalk is finally the best?

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2007-11-28T21:18:00+02:00 2007-11-28T21:18:00+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3325#p3325 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by damstraversaz — 28 Nov 2007, 20:18


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2007-10-28T21:36:57+02:00 2007-10-28T21:36:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3038#p3038 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
Create a VST like Legree - or use Legree (through cooperation)
And then allow an instance or many instances of Usine to come up as a member.
Usine doesn't change, it still can do all it can do.
But the other hosting program can use it all.

It might be a good first step. Later you can still create a VST version.

Just and idea ...

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2007-10-24T22:58:40+02:00 2007-10-24T22:58:40+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3018#p3018 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by Newbie Brad — 24 Oct 2007, 22:58


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I'm super-excited, whichever way you decide to go, Olivier.
me too !

the "little" vst seems to be very interesting. Usine is a complex software and if I need all the possibiliy of the soft, so I will use the host. but if i need one or two patch ( as fx for exemple) I will need the vst.

maybe the simple is the best and vst version doesn't need to be complex, but very intuitive,

a lot of preset for new user could be too useful , witch in my opinion is a good marketing strategy . I think most of people who's trying a new vst quickly ear the presets and if they like the sound , then they begin to see all the possibility of the full version
and you will keep spare time ! usine development is so quick, I have never see that with another software

hope it helps

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2007-10-23T00:31:56+02:00 2007-10-23T00:31:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3009#p3009 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
Except it's certainly not going to help me buckle down and become a Usine power-user once I can open up my patches inside FL or Reaper!

I'm super-excited, whichever way you decide to go, Olivier.

Statistics: Posted by runagate — 23 Oct 2007, 00:31


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2007-10-22T23:57:57+02:00 2007-10-22T23:57:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3008#p3008 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> after reading these later posts, i agree on the one-patch version - Usine as a VST/VSTi in another host could leave the "sequencing" functions to the host, retaining the modular structure/total remote control/interface building capacities....maybe multi outs could be handy too....

to me the VST idea is the winning one, cause i feel it's the easiest way to use Usine ( :D ) within another host (thinking about automation, for example, vs. something linked with a bridge - like Vsthost+Legree)


Ciao,
Goyya

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The dilemma is between:
1) a small VST which allows the loading of only one patch in a reduced interface, with a minimum of inputs/outputs.
2) a big Vst, which looks like the stand alone version with all the routing possibilities.

In the case 1) we will be able to load several VST in our favorite DAW and in the 2), because of the memory size, only one or two instances.

What do you think?
I don't have a single idea of the time/complexity involved in the programming, but my questio nis :
do we need to choose ?
If it is not a huge amount of time & work, why not making 2 VST versions ("full" & "lite"), to let the user choose depending on his needs / machine power ?
I see myself 2 main uses in using a vst version of Usine :
1- using a "lite" version just to use my custom ensembles and addons in my other DAW ;
2- using a muti-out capable version, in order to make a muti-track improvisation in Usine and recording each track in real-time in my multi-track audio editor / sequencer ;

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2007-10-22T00:21:39+02:00 2007-10-22T00:21:39+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3000#p3000 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> But... I'm not sure we'll be OK to loose this or that, depending on who we are and how we work. And it can become a very hard and very hot (and very long) debate on certain points...
So, let's dive:
What will we lose in this lite VST version?
- Sequencer mode?
- Conductor mode?
- Key(Midi)Learns?
- 8 I/O out of 10?
- ...?
And what will we earn?
- Unusual processing in usual DAWs?
- Busses from one Usine VST to another?
- Rewire?
- Usine plugged in (or bridged to) Usine?
- ... (no idea...)

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2007-10-21T21:13:13+02:00 2007-10-21T21:13:13+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=2999#p2999 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> WILL be great, in any capacity.

I don't diminish anyone else's needs, and I'm still pretty new to Usine, however my priority list would be:

1) I'd rather see Usine as a one patch VST than no VST
2) Obviously full function would be better, but not at the expense of mainstream development
3) Not a fan of Rewire, but it would work.
4) Less of a fan of VST bridges, but again would work.

Perhaps getting a lite one-patch VST going will help you better determine if a full function one is worth the effort.

And really, if you can load multiple instances I think a one-patch VST would be fine, for my purposes. As a VST I'm looking for the modular environment. And I assume one-patch implies support for subpatches.

In any case, more integration of your modular environment with other hosts is a winner, I am looking forward to it.

edit: after just playing with Usine again, I am changing my vote to full function VST!! :P

For the record I realize it could be considerable effort and I personally am willing to pay a decent upgrade price for any VST implementation, especially a full function.

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2007-10-21T17:57:08+02:00 2007-10-21T17:57:08+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=2998#p2998 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by plush — 21 Oct 2007, 17:57


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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/497 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 2008-01-18T18:11:50+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3638#p3638 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> and wait a little before add the VST3 in Usine. Steinberg isn't in a "dominant position" as in 1996 to impose his protocol. Too early, I prefer wait to how the community will react.

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2008-01-18T09:56:27+02:00 2008-01-18T09:56:27+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3637#p3637 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> I don't remember someone spoke about that ,what do you think ?
btw, steinberg release vst3 sdk kit this week

http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html

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2008-01-12T10:50:47+02:00 2008-01-12T10:50:47+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3579#p3579 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> seriously, vst with the new rack feature will be perfect !

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2008-01-11T22:07:40+02:00 2008-01-11T22:07:40+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3576#p3576 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> I was supposed to work during the Christmas break but I spent all my time on the newest version.
The vst version is almost clear in my mind : I know how to do that.
It's a big progress!
Since Microsoft had 6 month late for vista let me only 3...

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2008-01-11T21:38:37+02:00 2008-01-11T21:38:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3575#p3575 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Is the Vst version is in progress? How percent?

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2007-12-20T03:13:55+02:00 2007-12-20T03:13:55+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3498#p3498 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> have you considered to spill out small usine vst's which realize some of usine's unique features?
some smaller host dev's did that, probably to gain popularity (cockos reaplugs, fruity juice pack, xt/cakewalk/orion synths+sampler), albeit dont know yet what these plugins could do and wheter its a good strategy.

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2007-12-17T21:07:21+02:00 2007-12-17T21:07:21+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3480#p3480 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Looking forward to this (between two fat happy dinners) !

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2007-12-17T09:56:10+02:00 2007-12-17T09:56:10+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3479#p3479 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by senso — 17 Dec 2007, 08:56


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2007-12-16T21:52:57+02:00 2007-12-16T21:52:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3478#p3478 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> French translation & VST version : wow !
By the way, I understand about the "international" stuff, english is spoken worldwide.
"Before Christmas", you mean.... this week ?
double wow !!

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2007-12-16T20:24:14+02:00 2007-12-16T20:24:14+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3472#p3472 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
since only 20% of visitors are french, I prefere write manuals directly in English. Finally it's simpler.
But the French translation is in progress. Normally, will arrive before christmas.

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2007-12-13T18:37:14+02:00 2007-12-13T18:37:14+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3469#p3469 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Awesome (and you're a gentleman).

(and veeeeery interested into having a french manual, because, you know... "Usine is to difficult for starters").

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2007-12-13T17:13:41+02:00 2007-12-13T17:13:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3467#p3467 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by runagate — 13 Dec 2007, 16:13


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2007-12-12T15:26:41+02:00 2007-12-12T15:26:41+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3459#p3459 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
have a nice day and a "happy coding",

Goyya

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2007-11-29T23:06:27+02:00 2007-11-29T23:06:27+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3361#p3361 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> But the option of raintalk is finally the best?

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2007-11-28T21:18:00+02:00 2007-11-28T21:18:00+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3325#p3325 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by damstraversaz — 28 Nov 2007, 20:18


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Create a VST like Legree - or use Legree (through cooperation)
And then allow an instance or many instances of Usine to come up as a member.
Usine doesn't change, it still can do all it can do.
But the other hosting program can use it all.

It might be a good first step. Later you can still create a VST version.

Just and idea ...

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2007-10-24T22:58:40+02:00 2007-10-24T22:58:40+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3018#p3018 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by Newbie Brad — 24 Oct 2007, 22:58


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I'm super-excited, whichever way you decide to go, Olivier.
me too !

the "little" vst seems to be very interesting. Usine is a complex software and if I need all the possibiliy of the soft, so I will use the host. but if i need one or two patch ( as fx for exemple) I will need the vst.

maybe the simple is the best and vst version doesn't need to be complex, but very intuitive,

a lot of preset for new user could be too useful , witch in my opinion is a good marketing strategy . I think most of people who's trying a new vst quickly ear the presets and if they like the sound , then they begin to see all the possibility of the full version
and you will keep spare time ! usine development is so quick, I have never see that with another software

hope it helps

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2007-10-23T00:31:56+02:00 2007-10-23T00:31:56+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3009#p3009 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
Except it's certainly not going to help me buckle down and become a Usine power-user once I can open up my patches inside FL or Reaper!

I'm super-excited, whichever way you decide to go, Olivier.

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2007-10-22T23:57:57+02:00 2007-10-22T23:57:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3008#p3008 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> after reading these later posts, i agree on the one-patch version - Usine as a VST/VSTi in another host could leave the "sequencing" functions to the host, retaining the modular structure/total remote control/interface building capacities....maybe multi outs could be handy too....

to me the VST idea is the winning one, cause i feel it's the easiest way to use Usine ( :D ) within another host (thinking about automation, for example, vs. something linked with a bridge - like Vsthost+Legree)


Ciao,
Goyya

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2007-10-22T00:28:01+02:00 2007-10-22T00:28:01+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3001#p3001 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]>
The dilemma is between:
1) a small VST which allows the loading of only one patch in a reduced interface, with a minimum of inputs/outputs.
2) a big Vst, which looks like the stand alone version with all the routing possibilities.

In the case 1) we will be able to load several VST in our favorite DAW and in the 2), because of the memory size, only one or two instances.

What do you think?
I don't have a single idea of the time/complexity involved in the programming, but my questio nis :
do we need to choose ?
If it is not a huge amount of time & work, why not making 2 VST versions ("full" & "lite"), to let the user choose depending on his needs / machine power ?
I see myself 2 main uses in using a vst version of Usine :
1- using a "lite" version just to use my custom ensembles and addons in my other DAW ;
2- using a muti-out capable version, in order to make a muti-track improvisation in Usine and recording each track in real-time in my multi-track audio editor / sequencer ;

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2007-10-22T00:21:39+02:00 2007-10-22T00:21:39+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=3000#p3000 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> But... I'm not sure we'll be OK to loose this or that, depending on who we are and how we work. And it can become a very hard and very hot (and very long) debate on certain points...
So, let's dive:
What will we lose in this lite VST version?
- Sequencer mode?
- Conductor mode?
- Key(Midi)Learns?
- 8 I/O out of 10?
- ...?
And what will we earn?
- Unusual processing in usual DAWs?
- Busses from one Usine VST to another?
- Rewire?
- Usine plugged in (or bridged to) Usine?
- ... (no idea...)

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2007-10-21T21:13:13+02:00 2007-10-21T21:13:13+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=2999#p2999 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> WILL be great, in any capacity.

I don't diminish anyone else's needs, and I'm still pretty new to Usine, however my priority list would be:

1) I'd rather see Usine as a one patch VST than no VST
2) Obviously full function would be better, but not at the expense of mainstream development
3) Not a fan of Rewire, but it would work.
4) Less of a fan of VST bridges, but again would work.

Perhaps getting a lite one-patch VST going will help you better determine if a full function one is worth the effort.

And really, if you can load multiple instances I think a one-patch VST would be fine, for my purposes. As a VST I'm looking for the modular environment. And I assume one-patch implies support for subpatches.

In any case, more integration of your modular environment with other hosts is a winner, I am looking forward to it.

edit: after just playing with Usine again, I am changing my vote to full function VST!! :P

For the record I realize it could be considerable effort and I personally am willing to pay a decent upgrade price for any VST implementation, especially a full function.

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2007-10-21T17:57:08+02:00 2007-10-21T17:57:08+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=497&p=2998#p2998 <![CDATA[The VST version of Usine]]> Statistics: Posted by plush — 21 Oct 2007, 17:57


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