ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/6120 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41216#p41216 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 May 2019, 12:21


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2019-05-06T07:38:33+02:00 2019-05-06T07:38:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41215#p41215 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by rlgsbt — 06 May 2019, 07:38


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2019-05-06T02:50:02+02:00 2019-05-06T02:50:02+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41213#p41213 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 May 2019, 02:50


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2019-05-05T23:38:38+02:00 2019-05-05T23:38:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41212#p41212 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 05 May 2019, 23:38


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2019-05-05T21:21:48+02:00 2019-05-05T21:21:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41211#p41211 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
What I wanted is to be able to track touch points across the virtual keyboard (which layout is adaptive to Scale and Key), to have an option for Pitch-Slide (MPE featue) or at least to switch the notes on the fly as fingers slide across keys, that can be useful in conjunction with arpeggiator (want to simulate Figure app behaviour on that regard).

Right now each key is basically it's own sub-patch with dynamically designated note and separate tracking for velocity (up-down).

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2018-03-09T15:22:29+02:00 2018-03-09T15:22:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39627#p39627 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> https://youtu.be/7244ER2V-T8
also with some updates like added swing and arpeggiator sequencer retrigger on/off switch.

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2018-03-08T10:17:42+02:00 2018-03-08T10:17:42+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39623#p39623 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> I added it to our Facebook page

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2018-03-07T13:50:07+02:00 2018-03-07T13:50:07+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39622#p39622 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> https://vk.com/video2367116_456239035
hopefully the link will work

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2018-03-07T00:41:43+02:00 2018-03-07T00:41:43+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39617#p39617 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
not sure to have time to explore all this complex work, but yes, it use a lot of cpu, i'm afraid the splendid graphic part cost a lot
i've also this error at start:

http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... =error.png

on my side, my first tentation was to hack your preset manager ring as a fun sequencer ;-)
well, the sequencer part takes about 8% max, which would be fine since it's the most (graphically) complicated part of the patch, but the key rows polyphonic patch is the culprit as it takes anywhere from 12 to 16% for no apparent reason (and I wouldn't call it graphically demanding). It's not because of the scripts, since without them it still stays at 12%. I've tried removing many things, but only removing key polyphonic patch solves the usage. inside the sub-patch I've tried to cut various things, but didn't get any impact so far. maybe some bug?

speaking of scripts, it seems that it doesn't like that array starts from output 0, but everything works regardless. shifting it to start from 1 messes up the note sequence at the outputs.

It's good that I can at least use this patch as a creation tool to make melodies the easier (and lazier) way without honing the regular keyboard skills too much. But I wouldn't upload it as add-on in this state yet.

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2018-03-06T22:28:38+02:00 2018-03-06T22:28:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39615#p39615 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> i've also this error at start:

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on my side, my first tentation was to hack your preset manager ring as a fun sequencer ;-)

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2018-03-06T20:32:33+02:00 2018-03-06T20:32:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39613#p39613 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 Mar 2018, 19:32


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2018-03-06T15:55:15+02:00 2018-03-06T15:55:15+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39607#p39607 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 06 Mar 2018, 14:55


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2018-03-06T01:16:18+02:00 2018-03-06T01:16:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39599#p39599 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... _Fig51.pat

Progress: I've added second row option with setting to differentiate each row channel. Updated visuals, now I really like how the sequence-wheel looks and works, with ability to preview the pattern presets before lifting finger and applying (but it still messes with current loop if navigated preset has different steps number, so far no idea how to circumvent that). Added sync button for arpeggio interval, so each note is same length as one step. Notes now light up when touched and additionally light up (intensity adds) when either arpeggio triggers the notes or external midi source is hitting notes that are represented in keyboard. External midi can now be processed with arpeggiator in this patch. Some other minor tweaks and fixes.

Problems: Hold button that I've implemented only worked with arpeggiator disabled and without visual cue to what note is held, so I've temporary hid it. Still no idea how to implement slide mode, so you could slide and shift fingers across the notes, triggering them according to fingers position. While those two modes are essential for me to feel like this keyboard is more or less complete, the main problem arise - this patch now consumes about 40% on my PC, and apparently there are some errors in key dispatching script (which I took from original keyboard_14Notes patch from add-ons). I'll try to hunt down the culprit for CPU consumption as it's not anywhere near acceptable, even though still usable. So far I'm seeing that most CPU usage is in each keyboard row polyphonic sub-patch. It's either the problem with the scripts (which is out of my expertise) or did I made it too 'fancy' and complicated? Wheel sub-patch consumes about 8,5% at top, which is fine by me if it's because of graphics.

I'll add screenshot later and then record a video to demonstrate what I've build it for, but you can guess pretty easily if you have touchscreen.

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2018-02-27T02:36:32+02:00 2018-02-27T02:36:32+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39533#p39533 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Visual side not finished, but close to what I want.
http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... uchkey.gif

For now I can't come up with a good way to make 'slide' mode where notes would be triggered only when touchpoint is in the area of the note and released when it leaves the area and goes to the next.

Also 'Hold' mode is partly done, but it requires to manually retrigger notes held to release them back. At first I though of just making all notes stuck as long as HOLD is on, and then release all notes when it's turned off, but maybe there's better solution?

Other things in plans: more max notes (21 currently), two rows, possibly with different assignable output channels. invisible -1-1 fader injection to the notes which will reset to 0 when note is released, for additional modulation output as the note is dragged up and down even beyond note area.

Also, technically if I add pitch modulation to X axis, could be possible to make MPE-like vibratos and individual note glides.
Anyone up to augment my ideas?

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2018-02-14T03:40:35+02:00 2018-02-14T03:40:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39399#p39399 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
problem #1 filed as bug report as it seems to play just fine only if midi out or filter module settings is pinned.

problem #2 seems to be fixed by me

got some ideas to try for questions #5, but #3, #4, 6# and #7 still stands.

additionally, due to some weird behaviour or bug the keys might shift down 880 pixels upon loading patch, it can be moved back only after changing target where it appears back and forth. filed this as bug report.

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2018-02-12T04:14:57+02:00 2018-02-12T04:14:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39365#p39365 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Feb 2018, 03:14


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2018-02-12T04:11:46+02:00 2018-02-12T04:11:46+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39364#p39364 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Feb 2018, 03:11


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2018-02-12T04:08:34+02:00 2018-02-12T04:08:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39363#p39363 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> So far so good I'm getting some results, but lots of problems to solve.
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Figure-like Keyboard patch here

This patch is based on keyboard14notes patch from Add-ons, but I made a ton of changes.

I'll add info about specific problems I'm having, but here's few from the top of the head:

1) with arpeggio off notes are played only in sequence, when trying chords with multi-touch. Is it even possible to get simultaneous parallel midi messages from polyphonic patch?

2) arpeggio for some reason always plays one note twice, then the next etc, not sure why and how to change that. is there good alternatives to one in this patch?

3) can't figure out a way to make 'hold' effect for arpeggio, I guess I need to make notes 'stuck' whenever number of active pressed notes gets decreased (any finger goes up), and then release them with proper note off messages on next press of any note and further as long as number of notes increases. maybe there's better approach or idea for this?

4) if it's possible to make hold effect mentioned earlier, it would be best to make it so that shapes in containers don't disappear from where they were left, to have visual feedback on what notes are playing. maybe even make them appear or blink in sequence that arpeggio plays.

5) is it possible to make a switch for different modes, current with isolated vertical lock of notes and another: free slide across notes, trigger notes as they get under finger and release as they leave. I suspect that I would need a big invisible container on top of notes to track x/y coordinates and perhaps draw circle along the path, and use mouse over output for tracking active notes.

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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/6120 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 2019-05-06T12:21:31+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41216#p41216 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 May 2019, 12:21


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2019-05-06T07:38:33+02:00 2019-05-06T07:38:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41215#p41215 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by rlgsbt — 06 May 2019, 07:38


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2019-05-06T02:50:02+02:00 2019-05-06T02:50:02+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41213#p41213 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 May 2019, 02:50


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2019-05-05T23:38:38+02:00 2019-05-05T23:38:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41212#p41212 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 05 May 2019, 23:38


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2019-05-05T21:21:48+02:00 2019-05-05T21:21:48+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=41211#p41211 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
What I wanted is to be able to track touch points across the virtual keyboard (which layout is adaptive to Scale and Key), to have an option for Pitch-Slide (MPE featue) or at least to switch the notes on the fly as fingers slide across keys, that can be useful in conjunction with arpeggiator (want to simulate Figure app behaviour on that regard).

Right now each key is basically it's own sub-patch with dynamically designated note and separate tracking for velocity (up-down).

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2018-03-09T15:22:29+02:00 2018-03-09T15:22:29+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39627#p39627 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> https://youtu.be/7244ER2V-T8
also with some updates like added swing and arpeggiator sequencer retrigger on/off switch.

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2018-03-08T10:17:42+02:00 2018-03-08T10:17:42+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39623#p39623 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> I added it to our Facebook page

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2018-03-07T13:50:07+02:00 2018-03-07T13:50:07+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39622#p39622 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> https://vk.com/video2367116_456239035
hopefully the link will work

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2018-03-07T00:41:43+02:00 2018-03-07T00:41:43+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39617#p39617 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
not sure to have time to explore all this complex work, but yes, it use a lot of cpu, i'm afraid the splendid graphic part cost a lot
i've also this error at start:

http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... =error.png

on my side, my first tentation was to hack your preset manager ring as a fun sequencer ;-)
well, the sequencer part takes about 8% max, which would be fine since it's the most (graphically) complicated part of the patch, but the key rows polyphonic patch is the culprit as it takes anywhere from 12 to 16% for no apparent reason (and I wouldn't call it graphically demanding). It's not because of the scripts, since without them it still stays at 12%. I've tried removing many things, but only removing key polyphonic patch solves the usage. inside the sub-patch I've tried to cut various things, but didn't get any impact so far. maybe some bug?

speaking of scripts, it seems that it doesn't like that array starts from output 0, but everything works regardless. shifting it to start from 1 messes up the note sequence at the outputs.

It's good that I can at least use this patch as a creation tool to make melodies the easier (and lazier) way without honing the regular keyboard skills too much. But I wouldn't upload it as add-on in this state yet.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 Mar 2018, 23:41


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2018-03-06T22:28:38+02:00 2018-03-06T22:28:38+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39615#p39615 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> i've also this error at start:

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on my side, my first tentation was to hack your preset manager ring as a fun sequencer ;-)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 06 Mar 2018, 21:28


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2018-03-06T20:32:33+02:00 2018-03-06T20:32:33+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39613#p39613 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 06 Mar 2018, 19:32


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2018-03-06T15:55:15+02:00 2018-03-06T15:55:15+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39607#p39607 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 06 Mar 2018, 14:55


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2018-03-06T01:16:18+02:00 2018-03-06T01:16:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39599#p39599 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... _Fig51.pat

Progress: I've added second row option with setting to differentiate each row channel. Updated visuals, now I really like how the sequence-wheel looks and works, with ability to preview the pattern presets before lifting finger and applying (but it still messes with current loop if navigated preset has different steps number, so far no idea how to circumvent that). Added sync button for arpeggio interval, so each note is same length as one step. Notes now light up when touched and additionally light up (intensity adds) when either arpeggio triggers the notes or external midi source is hitting notes that are represented in keyboard. External midi can now be processed with arpeggiator in this patch. Some other minor tweaks and fixes.

Problems: Hold button that I've implemented only worked with arpeggiator disabled and without visual cue to what note is held, so I've temporary hid it. Still no idea how to implement slide mode, so you could slide and shift fingers across the notes, triggering them according to fingers position. While those two modes are essential for me to feel like this keyboard is more or less complete, the main problem arise - this patch now consumes about 40% on my PC, and apparently there are some errors in key dispatching script (which I took from original keyboard_14Notes patch from add-ons). I'll try to hunt down the culprit for CPU consumption as it's not anywhere near acceptable, even though still usable. So far I'm seeing that most CPU usage is in each keyboard row polyphonic sub-patch. It's either the problem with the scripts (which is out of my expertise) or did I made it too 'fancy' and complicated? Wheel sub-patch consumes about 8,5% at top, which is fine by me if it's because of graphics.

I'll add screenshot later and then record a video to demonstrate what I've build it for, but you can guess pretty easily if you have touchscreen.

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2018-02-27T02:36:32+02:00 2018-02-27T02:36:32+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39533#p39533 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Visual side not finished, but close to what I want.
http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/upload ... uchkey.gif

For now I can't come up with a good way to make 'slide' mode where notes would be triggered only when touchpoint is in the area of the note and released when it leaves the area and goes to the next.

Also 'Hold' mode is partly done, but it requires to manually retrigger notes held to release them back. At first I though of just making all notes stuck as long as HOLD is on, and then release all notes when it's turned off, but maybe there's better solution?

Other things in plans: more max notes (21 currently), two rows, possibly with different assignable output channels. invisible -1-1 fader injection to the notes which will reset to 0 when note is released, for additional modulation output as the note is dragged up and down even beyond note area.

Also, technically if I add pitch modulation to X axis, could be possible to make MPE-like vibratos and individual note glides.
Anyone up to augment my ideas?

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 27 Feb 2018, 01:36


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2018-02-14T03:40:35+02:00 2018-02-14T03:40:35+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39399#p39399 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]>
problem #1 filed as bug report as it seems to play just fine only if midi out or filter module settings is pinned.

problem #2 seems to be fixed by me

got some ideas to try for questions #5, but #3, #4, 6# and #7 still stands.

additionally, due to some weird behaviour or bug the keys might shift down 880 pixels upon loading patch, it can be moved back only after changing target where it appears back and forth. filed this as bug report.

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2018-02-12T04:14:57+02:00 2018-02-12T04:14:57+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39365#p39365 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Feb 2018, 03:14


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2018-02-12T04:11:46+02:00 2018-02-12T04:11:46+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39364#p39364 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Feb 2018, 03:11


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2018-02-12T04:08:34+02:00 2018-02-12T04:08:34+02:00 https://brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6120&p=39363#p39363 <![CDATA[Having troubles with custom touch-keyboard patch]]> So far so good I'm getting some results, but lots of problems to solve.
Image

Figure-like Keyboard patch here

This patch is based on keyboard14notes patch from Add-ons, but I made a ton of changes.

I'll add info about specific problems I'm having, but here's few from the top of the head:

1) with arpeggio off notes are played only in sequence, when trying chords with multi-touch. Is it even possible to get simultaneous parallel midi messages from polyphonic patch?

2) arpeggio for some reason always plays one note twice, then the next etc, not sure why and how to change that. is there good alternatives to one in this patch?

3) can't figure out a way to make 'hold' effect for arpeggio, I guess I need to make notes 'stuck' whenever number of active pressed notes gets decreased (any finger goes up), and then release them with proper note off messages on next press of any note and further as long as number of notes increases. maybe there's better approach or idea for this?

4) if it's possible to make hold effect mentioned earlier, it would be best to make it so that shapes in containers don't disappear from where they were left, to have visual feedback on what notes are playing. maybe even make them appear or blink in sequence that arpeggio plays.

5) is it possible to make a switch for different modes, current with isolated vertical lock of notes and another: free slide across notes, trigger notes as they get under finger and release as they leave. I suspect that I would need a big invisible container on top of notes to track x/y coordinates and perhaps draw circle along the path, and use mouse over output for tracking active notes.

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