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unguitar

I saw this just after sending my previous post.
Well, when you have a complex workspace, rebuilding it from scratch is quite a problem Olivier...

senso wrote: ↑
25 Feb 2025, 08:30
generally the config folder is not compatible from a version to the next major version (ie. 5 --> 6)
I recommend to configure Usine from scratch...

unguitar

Screenshot 2025-02-25 at 12.24.37.png I've uploaded the demo of 6.xx and scanned the plugins locations. When on 6.xx all the plugins in the workspace originally made with 5.xx are showing "invalid" on all connections, while when I drag them from the plugins navigator into the patch they appear just...

unguitar

ok, thanks

unguitar

which is the suggested routine to move from 5.x to 6.x while recovering workspaces and patches?
Previous versions needed the entire existing Config folder to be copied in the new one, is this still ok?
thank you

unguitar

@rlgsbt yes, if I put drag them in the rack from plugins' browser they load just fine, but all settings are lost. One reason which puts Usine high in the performance oriented audio applications is its smooth and convenient preset management, which allows you storing and recalling the full snapshot o...

unguitar

after scanning all the plugins HH6 is giving me the same "invalid" messages on the same plugins HH5 was showing.
the plugins are correctly installed as they work fine with Reaper and Live.

unguitar

ok, are you suggesting me to check with HH6.x?

unguitar

Hi, I've just installed this on a new Macbook Air on macOS 14.4. I've copied all my previous setup files from Config folder to the new one. Workspace loads just fine, audio routing and midi settings are just there, and plugins show their correct names but don't show up. When I look into their respec...

unguitar

thank you Oli, very kind from you. I had to stop checking for the issue as I needed to choose a setup to use for the next studio recording and start preparing sounds on it. Usine 5.x was taking too much time to work as I needed, so I decided to go for a combination of modules and pedals for this rou...

unguitar

Hi Olivier,

I'm sending you a pm

senso wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2022, 11:16
please send your logFile.log to support ?

unguitar

thank you very much Oli, the settings you're showing are the same I have. I just had to switch hardware acceleration off. However 5.xx is still not working, it shows consistent dropouts and glitches. Will do a fresh reinstall later today. If it doesn't work I will get back to 4.xx and accept some pl...

unguitar

thank you, it looks like this adjustment hasn't solved the issue. the last thing worst doing is cancelling Usine and do a fresh installation. Will do, thank you everybody for your help Hi Luca, I'm not sure it will help, but try to desactivate the softclipping option (in setup/audio) and reopen Usin...

unguitar

thank you Oli, I appreciate. The issue is happening just with 5 and above. I'm on Usine since more than 6 years with no problem with audio card, dropouts and glitches once the latency is set up according to cpu/ram load, however with 5 and up I'm getting dropouts even with one single input/output ra...

unguitar

Hi Olivier,

I had a very quick reaction from support but unfortunately after my feedback he disappeared.
This is the first time I get in touch with him and don't know what to expect.

Many thanks

unguitar

I'm using the latest release (although it's a beta, but this is what you suggested me when I reported the issues I was having wit Zenaptyq plugins).
I sent the report to the specific mail address

senso wrote: ↑
28 Nov 2022, 09:16
please try to send report to the support !
and always use the latest version.

unguitar

Hello, after upgrading to 5.2.22 I'm having issues with my audio card. Setup is MacBook Pro i5 with 8 Gb ram, RME Babyface Pro. Here is the routine i went through: The first time I opened this new release with my audio card connected I was having a totally unmanageable sound quality, as if the buffe...

unguitar

yes, it's working

senso wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2022, 14:12
what about Usine 5.2 ?

unguitar

ok, it works, thank you

unguitar

will try

SylvainT wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2022, 08:42
Hello
The first time you launch Usine on Mac, don't use double click. Use right.click and select open.

Sylvain

unguitar

I've just installed Altiverb and Wormhole and they both crash Usine 4.1 and 5.1 when scrolling through their presets.
Is anyone finding the same?
thx

unguitar

Hi,
I'm getting this messagge after downloading 5.2.221120 2.
Any idea?

iOS 10.14.6
Macbook Pro 13" 3,1 GHz Intel Core i5
8 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3

thanks

unguitar

no problem, I'm in touch with Emmanuel.
many thanks!

unguitar

thank you Olivier,
I know Emmanuel very well and I remember he showed me Noundo many years ago!
However the link http://www.sensomusic.org/addons as in the link you provided me is not working anymore, where may I find it?
many thanks

unguitar

Hi, I'm currently using the most advanced and flexible looping software available: Mobius, which is a development of the Oberheim Echoplex with further possibilities. Unfortunately it is not developed for 64 bits and must find a replacement. Loopy Pro would be the candidate but it's available just f...

unguitar

hello,
can you help me remember where is the CONFIG folder located on a typical installation on Mac?
thanks

unguitar

Hi,
before installing HH5 I'd like to know the compatibility and procedure to migrate presets and settings.
many thanks

unguitar

yes Olivier, I remember the old times when I had to figure out which solution to take when Audiomulch was abandoned. After checking many different alternatives I decided to go for Usine and I've never regretted it. On the opposite, you've always gone way beyond my expectations. I suspect the BrainBo...

unguitar

happy to see such a vivid and active life in and around Usine!

I'm curious in knowing a bit more about the BrainBox, which is something able to activate many fantasies in my mind...

unguitar

ok, glad to see such a vivid reaction. I'm using Usine since for a few years now, always as a a router for parallel real time processing of incoming audio. I'm now interested in modular processing and random modulation so I wanted to check which could be the best door to enter into this new room of ...

unguitar

Hi,
anyone working on this?

unguitar

thank you for clearing this, Senso. It's fully understandable. Usine is such a deep environment that I don't consider this to be a reason of weakness. I just feel better knowing the real thing instead of feeling like I was missing the point. Usine is huge. Automatic feedback in Usine is a feature re...

unguitar

ah! everything is clear now!!! no need to scrap my head any longer thinking it's me missing the point. thank you Drakh yep this is known problem. faders/switches/knobs etc are sending midifeedback only when change was invoked from GUI :( Thank you Sylvain, very helpful. Actually it looks like all wh...

unguitar

my point is that Midifeedback should read the position of the fader and not intercept the Midi ( or mouse) control that is directed to the fader.
Here is one of my racks.
I have 4 racks

4 B.rack: (294.19 KiB) Downloaded 383 times

like the one you see attached, each one with a different set of Vst's.

unguitar

Thank you Sylvain, very helpful. Actually it looks like all what you suggested is already there. Do you think the culprit is the fact I'm willing to mirror the racks' input faders that are controlled both by Mididesigner and by Audiofront's MIDI Expression Quattro back to Mididesigner? Midi feedback...

unguitar

browser/modules/interface control but remember you can also use the word rack in the search bar ? it looks like we're running out of the context. I'm surely not that much into Usine architecture to be able to translate cryptic messages, I use it to make music, not to challenge my digital syntax. th...

unguitar

Yes, I want to set Midi feedback on each respective input of four different Racks in Usine.
Under which category am I finding the Usine Rack settings module you talk about?

unguitar

Yes, I want to set Midi feedback on each respective input of four different Racks in Usine.
Under which category am I finding the Usine Rack settings module you talk about?

unguitar

after all that I'm only wondering, what's the point of having MIDIdesigner in first place if you have Usine? you could use TouchOSC if it's for mobile touchscreen controller setup. I use MidiDesigner as a controller because I need to control another application ( the glorius Mobius) which is not ho...

unguitar

Thank you.
ok, I see the point of this turnaround..

However I'm not able to see which is the right location for such Midi Generator Create Message.
I want to automate the inputs of fours different racks.

unguitar

no experience in creating midi modules here...

nay-seven wrote: ↑
22 Jun 2020, 09:35
...But you can easily use a MIDI create module to send back the value ?

unguitar

To be more specific:
When I adjust the faders on Usine using the mouse, their values are sent back to Mididesigner.
When the same faders are moved from another MIDI device, the values are not sent to Mididesigner.
Any chance to get it working?
Thanks

unguitar

Hi,
I've moved from PC to Mac and the connection between my Ipad with Mididesigner and my laptop is much more solid.
I want to test midi feedback again, so in Setup>MIDI, checked "MIDI feedback to all devices" but I can't see anything happen.
Any help?
thanks

unguitar

my fault, still new to the Mac world, all good now.

unguitar

Hello,
although the soundcard is properly installed ( checked in Reaper) it is not shown as available.
What should I double check?
thanks

unguitar

One question for Mac users: where do I find the "Config" folder in the Mac?
I need to go there to paste the settings I copied from my PC.
This is the procedure I use each time I update Usine.

unguitar

Hello,
I'm about to move my setup from Pc to Mac.
I expect to be able to open my setup and find everything as it was before changing the system.
Anything to be aware of from who did this step before?
Many thanks

unguitar

which file should I save to export my HH3 Audio and Midi settings into HH4?

unguitar

was this issue solved?

unguitar

gurulogic wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2017, 18:14
When I update HH to a new version I copy the entire config folder to the new directory. This contains all settings, devices and any user modules that I have downloaded.

Hi,
is this still valid when you move from HH3 to HH4?
thanks

unguitar

Hi,
I'm in the studio and suddenly I've got this message out of nowhere.
Nothing has changed inmy setup and the audio diver ( RME Babyface Pro) looks like running with no problem.
Any advice???
many thanks,
Luca

unguitar

no issues, it works just great.

I would be happy to setup midi feedback so that the faders on Mididesigner are reflecting the actual situation on Usine.

unguitar

Hello,
anyone using Mididesigner here?

unguitar

nay-seven wrote:Are you following us on social networks? (links in my signature)

uhhhh... no, I wasn't, but i can see many juicy news!
Will dig the fb page to recover the lost time

unguitar

It would be nice to know some of the major add-ons we may expect from HH4

unguitar

Hi, my setup consists of HH3 and Mobius ( the software looper) standalone ( as it is still 32 bits just). I'm using several midi controllers such an Ipad running Mididesigner, a cv to midi and a Keith Mc Millen Softstep. Everything runs fine, all midi signals are received by Usine. When I have Mobiu...

unguitar

thanks, that made it work!

unguitar

Hello,
I have a working midi in connection, as displayed by the input midi meters in Usine.
However there's no chance for the plugins ( tried with many) to receive the incoming midi signal, their midi learn function doesn't get anything.
Any advice?
thanks

unguitar

thanks for the advice, very useful.
one of the two devices started to work after a reboot of Usine, no way to have Softstep working.

unguitar

x.iso wrote:have you tried to open midi device as patch to check if i/o is correctly wired?

this sounds like a good idea, can you please guide me?

unguitar

I have a weird problem with Keith Mc Millen Softstep and another midi device. They both are shown in the device list but even if I highlight the correspondent box, there is no midi activity getting in and shown in the meters on the top of the screen. Please note that Midiox shows the devices are pro...

unguitar

whoops, there it is!
sorry, I completely forgot that...
thank you!

unguitar

hi, I have 9 racks which outputs all go to Master Stereo Out. I would like to have a filter and a limiter just before Master Stereo Out. Is making a new rack which gets all the outputs from the 9 racks, has the filter and limiter and Master Stereo Out as an out the only viable solution or is there a...

unguitar

Hi,
is it possible to send you a short video?

unguitar

Please check this routine: have an external midi controller connected link it to a rack's input volume bring the volume down via the midi controller save the workspace's preset disconnect the midi controller reload the preset move the fader via the mouse even if the fader moves and is at correct pos...

unguitar

fantastic!
thank you

unguitar

After many years in programming hardware algorithms I must admit I've become a little lazy. As an example, let's take Demo 4 Poly Mini Mog: I'd like to import the rack #1 ( keyboard and preset) and #2 ( Poly Mini Mog) into my workspace. Now, the #2 is easy as it is a module, but how about #1? thank ...

unguitar

is there any module that would allow that?
I'm testing the Filter Step and the Filter Resonator, but I'm not sure if there's anything which could get closer to the idea.
thanks

unguitar

gurulogic wrote:When I update HH to a new version I copy the entire config folder to the new directory. This contains all settings, devices and any user modules that I have downloaded.

this is it!
thank you a lot this is exactly what I was meaning when I began this thread

unguitar

SylvainT wrote:When you save your workspace, you save everything excepted two things :
- the devices (audio in/out, midi in/out, video in/out ...)
- the general configurations

So, how do I save these settings?

unguitar

thank you, so it means all the information regarding setup, plugins and so on are stored in the preset itself? Can I completely delete the folder containing the older version and keep just the latest one? [ edit ] it looks like audio settings are not saved in preset. Audio card and general configura...

unguitar

nay-seven wrote:You need to rename the button in the list, not in the combobox

yep, that's clear now.
thanks a lot

unguitar

nay-seven wrote:if you use the module preset manager in a patch change its target to workspace

thank you for the advice.
In this case I'm getting a "W017 not allowed to rename" message.

unguitar

great!
great possibilities and instructions to work on.
thanks a lot

unguitar

Hi, I'd like to learn how to manage the preset manager available at the top of a rack. I see you can take a snapshot of the modules and plugins contained in the specific rack and get a numbered list to recall. I can't find how to give each preset a name, is it possible? Also, is it possible to have ...

unguitar

hello,
I'm thinking about adding a sampler to my live performance tools but, before taking a specific hardware solution, I'd like to know if anyone is using Usine as a sample player with an external midi controller to create rhythmic patterns.
Thank you,
Luca

unguitar

Hi,
what do I have to save to be able to backup my workspace and where do I find those file(s)?
thanks

unguitar

yes, this is a great way to allow a deep test, which I'm doing and with very positive results!
Big important steps ahead you've done, this latest version looks very very well laid out and functional.
Hats off

unguitar

sorry for the dumb question: which is the limit of the demo version?

unguitar

Sorry, I've been diving into it.
Anyhow, all runs well if I open Usine by clicking on the Usine app file which I find in the BIN folder.

unguitar

hi,
I'm encountering authorization and antivirus issues after downloading Usine Hollyhock win64 3.0.132
Anyone else?
thanks,
Luca

unguitar

I'm sorry but it looks like this is not the kind of solution I was looking for. In fact, each time I save a preset on the strip all audio settings are stored, so I cannot use the preset slot just to save Vsts' algorithms; Vsts' interface visual position is saved as well. Violent; Having multiple Vst...

unguitar

Another point is that I see the presets are setting some of the strip's settings as volume, bypass and so on.
Is there any chance I can decide which information and setting to save into the preset and what no ?

unguitar

yeah !
so, in case of multiple VSTs in the same strip, should I connect all of them to a single array ?

unguitar

I've tested it with 2CAudio Aether, Uhbik and Soundtoys,

unguitar

Hi,
I'd expect that the Vst settings and relative preset name would be stored in its rack once I save it as a preset.
Why it's not so ?

What's the concept behind presets in Usine ?

thanks

unguitar

Once I've replicated the setup using the same exact syntax ( capital sensitive) of the devices everything runs fine. The thing to know is that it looks like the setup is not saved into the workspace so, if you have saved a 32 bit workspace and load it into 64 bit without having previously prepared a...

unguitar

Ok, here it goes. Plugins load fine. Inputs and outputs are causing a mess. Is it true that audio and midi setup saved on 32 bits are not "translated" to 64 bits ? On my system it looks like this, actually it is like if the workspace tries to load devices but it is not able to assign them as it was ...

unguitar

thank you all !

unguitar

Hello, I tried to open my workspace created in 32 bits from the 64 bits version. I see that, even if I changed the Vst directory and directed Usine to the 64 one, where all plugins have the same names as the 32 bits, it isn't able to replace them as I expected. Same happens for the in/out physical c...

unguitar

Hello, after a few years from the first and the second test, I'd like to give Usine another spin. I'm just at the beginning of replicating my usual routing scenario and need to check about the following informations, your help will help me to speed through the learning curve. I'm sure these are not ...

unguitar

Hi Andrew, I tested Usine and compared it to Bidule, Max Msp and Audiomulch. For my use, Audiomulch won over these three contenders at that time. Unfortunately AM is not developing further and I need to work on a platform that keept itself up to date to newest technologies ( 64 bits, multicores), so...

unguitar

Hi, I am considering migrating my setup from Audiomulch to Usine. It is a rather complex routing architecture using several audio flows, each one with many controllers and Vsts. I also use two external hardware processors where the signal is sent to and received from. I don't use samples, the audio ...

unguitar

Hello, I would just need a module ( or whatever) in which I can set a few ( four in total) midi control and/or program changes. This is what it should me allow to do: store specified midi commands as it was a module that gets memorized in a scene or in a preset send these midi commands out each time...

unguitar

Hi, I am using a mixed software and hardware processing. My hardware effects are connected to my audio card which is sending and receiving their signal. I am using a complex routing/splitting signal flow to process the source material ( guitar in real time) to various vsts and hardware effects. Give...

unguitar

Dear Seven-nay and 23fx23, thanks a lot for your anwers. I have all the informations that allow me to purchase a copy of Usine thinking it is fitting all the mandatory features I need to re-create my working/play space. I will certainly have more questions to ask in the future and the quality of fee...

unguitar

thanks, I am clearing my view better and better now. So we can say that once I load my working space with all tracks containing different modules and vsts I can control all the tweaks including vst presets via preset manager. This preset manager recalls these tweaks and vsts' presets without stoppin...

unguitar

dear NaySeven, thanks for your reply and availability. Before posting I had read those pages already but I wanted to be sure about a few things as I don't have the chance to test them on the free edition: In the specific my questions 2 and 3 don't look to be covered anywhere. About having the chance...

unguitar

Hi, I know it may sound limited but one of my main concern and expectation in Usine is to be able to do what the header says. After having tried and used Usine the first time in 2006/7 I am back testing it since a full month now. I am coming from several years of Audiomulch use. Back to the topic: I...

unguitar

yes, it was very obvious indeed !
No conductor in free version...

unguitar

Hello,
I am checking version free 5.25j installed and there is no way to see and enter Conductor, not using the ctrl+f7 or f8.

Anything I am missing ?

thanks and sorry, I suspect there is an obvious answer somewhere...
Luca

unguitar

hé hé javanaiz..always fighting with Mobius..? ;-) the send to new audio bus would be the solution, you'll have then out1,out2... then in track 1 use the get from existing bus from your effect audio in or whatever you have in this track and choose out 1 i can add screenshot if needed check here too...

unguitar

Olivier,
I am sending you some files pm.
My hw set up is:
Win Xp on Toshiba Laptop, Rme FF400 interface, Doepfer midi fader.
Plus some hw efx ( Eventide and Tc Electronics).
Let's see if we can do it !
thanks

unguitar

Olivier, I think we should meet ;-) No way to make the dispatch work as I need. The change between the two outputs is very abrupt. I am sorry Usine can't solve this, a simple mix module or a serious midi cross fader would make it so simple. Regarding the midi problem: I didn't change anything in my ...

unguitar

Hi Olivier, I need to split a signal to two different inputs, not mixing two inputs to the same output. I would eventually need a cross fade with one input and two outputs ( the opposite of cross fader). But beside this I am at the same time controlling another thing, so here I explane it all: Mobiu...

unguitar

Hi guys, I think I'm unclear, so I try to explane you what I need to do, so that it can be easier: I need to place an efx ( hardware) that is taking the output of (Mobius) and processing it. I need to crossfade between the dry and processed signal so that, ideally, when the fader is in the middle po...

unguitar

Hi, I am going deeper so here is my question: the module A-B does what is needed but when the value is in the middle both the result is zero. I need something to allow me a crossing, meaning that when the value is at half I have both values at +/-50%, up is +100%/-100%, down -100%/+100%. Does this e...

unguitar

Thanks for your encouraging words Olivier, as you know I am trying Usine to drive my mixed hw and sw setup, trying to dive into its routing/splitting/mixing power. The controlling power is great considering the easy use of midilearn. I find the interface still a little "dark" as there are many routi...

unguitar

I am happy to know it's my fault, really. The only problem is that I really want to know where I am putting that gain stage as I have also been to bed with my laptop but still she doesn't tell me where is the tricky connection... I am sorry to disturb with an evident lack of comprehension but this c...

unguitar

I also thought about it, so I set just one track on and it happens anyway. Example: guitar signal coming into input 1 U. input 1 feeding U. output 3/4 U. output 3/4 feeding Eventide Orville Spdif in Eventide Orville Spdif out feeding U. input 3/4. U. input 3/4 routed to U. Master out. Master output ...

unguitar

the strange fact is that all the tracks show the same level ( I send and distribute 0dB to all the channels) but, even if the hardware levels are all shown the same ( Rme mixer), the software output of Usine shows a boost of approx 5 dB. I don't want to be hostinate in thinking it is a problem cause...

unguitar

Hi, I have a signal coming in through a channel and it is sent to an output with nothing in between. I notice that if I compare the meter's value ( input signal coming into the track with output signal going out) I see the output signal is stronger. This is causing overloading the output. It can be ...

unguitar

Hi Olivier,
I noticed that when I upgraded from 1,18 to 1,19 I lost all my settings on the audio card, so I'm still on 1,18.
I'd like to move to Version 2,0, is there a file I can save with all those settings plus the tracks' ones ?

thanks

unguitar

Ok,
but is there a way to reverse the midi control giving maximum a negative value and minimum a positive one ?
thanks

unguitar

Hi, I need to have the same midi controller have reversed control over two audio outputs: when fader is up = output 1 is 0% and output b is -100% when fader is down = output 1 is -100% and output b is 0%. I set two faders ( controlled by the same midi controller) to control the volume thinking that ...

unguitar

after having loaded 1.018, I don't see the outputs B and C on my mixer track anymore. Don't worry In the new version output buses are stereo by default. In you use more than 2 outputs modules the buses are transformed into surround automatically. Try to put 5 out modules, for example. Please clear ...

unguitar

Hi,
after having loaded 1.018, I don't see the outputs B and C on my mixer track anymore.
Going back to 1.016 shows them again.
Where do I set them ?
thanks,
luca

unguitar

One more question ( and thanks for all the patience):
what do I gain inserting the "additional" ins/outs in a track instead of in a channel ?
Or
Is there any "must do" in here ?
thanks,

unguitar

You mean you can use additional ins/outs instead of aux then ?

unguitar

Hi, my main interest in Usine has the target to test it as an efficient router/mixer/splitter for stage use. I need to have a complete control over my setup, which is composed by hardware processors and an audio software (Mobius). After having tested it ( 1.016) I still have a few obscure points, I ...

unguitar

Is it possible to set the input and output hardware channels to route an Aux in/out ?
thanks,
luca

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