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Thomas Helzle

Ha - resurrection of a very old thread. Interesting to see that it's still relevant. In the meantime I moved almost all my 3D work to SideFX Houdini - which is completely node based - and it also has a lot of convenient tools to manage connections, structure, nodes etc. I no longer use Usine but I c...

Thomas Helzle

Looks nice, but I fear I've moved on in the meantime.
All the best luck with the new version though!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, really depends on what one is doing. Bitwig 2 now finally can send MTC and also SPP along with Midi Clock, so syncing became much easier. What also could be interesting for those who use analogue gear is, that it has CV and CV Clock devices built in, so if you have a DC-coupled interface, you ...

Thomas Helzle

Well, for me Bitwig combines the two worlds to the extend I like them. I never was a fan of M4L and the way it thinks, so soon after Bitwig came out, I sold my Live 8 Suite & M4L and never looked back. Bitwig has modular thinking built right in (and at one point you'll be able to do you own patches ...

Thomas Helzle

Bitwig

Thomas Helzle

Easine is one of the versions of the old Usine 5.x, which is pre-Hollyhock (where they started counting from 0 again). There was Usine Pro, Easine, Usine Stage before and I think a free version too. It was all rather confusing and I never really understood what the idea behind all those versions was...

Thomas Helzle

Avira should be fine, I use it for ages and never had an issue with it, but Komodo Firewall is the worst piece of software I ever used. It made my computer unusable and almost broke my windows installation. I had regular reproducible blue screens and the developer never even acknowledged the problem...

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, it's funny. On one hand the improvements are kind of subtle, but at the same time they make a lot of difference to me. And the blocks templates are very well thought out. One can see that they invested a lot of thought into how to make blocks easy to create in a visually pleasing and compatibl...

Thomas Helzle

IMO they are very different. Usine is a DAW first, Reaktor is an instrument/effect first. If you are into DSP coding your own instruments or effects or simply want to explore the extremely deep user library for Reaktor, I'd say go for it. I personally wouldn't have updated for the blocks alone, but ...

Thomas Helzle

Congratulations Senso and Team!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

FLAC! Nice

Thanks and cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

... they are pushing some such things quite aggressively even with the 8.1 update, where it looked as if you needed to log in with your microsoft account - something I find so stupid I don't even have words for it. I used to feel the same way, and I HATED the idea of my OS login being tied to an on...

Thomas Helzle

Well, I am still curious what the free update brings us in the area of intrusive behaviour. In the Windows 10 Beta, Microsoft pretty much assigned itself the right to look into everything that was on the machine - not acceptable to me. The release version will not have this I'm sure, but still they ...

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, I had the same reaction to the mouseovers in HH1 and yes I made a bug report back then ;-) It totally defeats the features purpose so I disable it first thing. A mouse over makes sense if it highlights the stuff you hover over (as pretty much every website in the world shows) so you know what ...

Thomas Helzle

Well, you never know if they were even aware of it and there is little overlap in what they do. I personally still find "Usine Hollyhock" quite a mouthfull and would actually prefer to just call it Usine again - Usine Hollyhock to me sounds like one of those beta names like "Android Lollipop" or the...

Thomas Helzle

Well, usually Android is left out when it comes to audio apps, so you can't really complain... ;-) It works quite well, although I think it could need some improvements - for instance the midi VST is blocking existing midi on the track in Bitwig, so it's pretty unusable there ATM.. The OSC version m...

Thomas Helzle

Hey, just found those two tools - stumbled over them since they are from a german company called Hollyhook... midiHook: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hollyhook.midiHook oscHook https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hollyhook.oscHook These allow you to send the sensord...

Thomas Helzle

I see.
Funny, I somehow assumed that all forum software ever done would have this as an option, since anything else makes forums very hard to follow IMO.

Not a big problem.

Thanks and Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hm - while I do all of my own websites and also some webwork for other people, I didn't really understand the structure you are using right away when looking at the source (I'm not very good a code-reading other peoples work). I guess it's relatively simple, but since I'm not familiar with the scrip...

Thomas Helzle

Hey,

I would really like to have the option to auto-subscribe to topics in the forum that I either create or post in.
Half of the time I forget to click the option since every other forum I use does this automatically.

Thank you!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey, I currently work with several nodes systems in 3D and wanted to show you some things that I found totally awesome in Blender, Fabric-Engine Canvas, Grasshopper etc.. - If you CTRL-leftmouse-drag over the "wires" between nodes in Blender, you get a kind of "knife" that cuts all wires you drag ov...

Thomas Helzle

Hey,

sorry for this somehow smallish request but I find myself always expecting the top menu on the Sensomusic website to open automatically when I mouse-over it. I think this would improve usability quite a bit for non-touchscreens.

Maybe it's an easy fix?

Thanks and cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thank you very much Senso!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thanks a lot for the Midi Beat Clock improvements.
Bitwig Studio and Usine now stay much better in sync here.
Not as tight as with Ableton Live as slave, but much better.
Will do more testing over the next days.

Thanks and cheers!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

oli_lab wrote:I'm an addict : what do I get if I sponsor someone else, an extra life ?

Hehehe - yeah, be a sponsor, become a cat

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey Nay-Seven, that was not my problem, it was the port settings in the OSC4Bitwig script that didn't work correctly. I understood the Usine part. I am using port 8000 to receive in Usine (in preferences) and (now) 8002 to send. I didn't investigate what port 8001 is occupied with ;-) And yes, good ...

Thomas Helzle

Oh, and I just solved my OSC out problem - It consisted of two things: a.) The OSC4Bitwig script has a bug when you set the receive port in the GUI, it doesn't actually use that port, you need to change it in the script itself. I'll report that to Moss, the author of the script. b.) Port 8001 which ...

Thomas Helzle

Update: Senso answered my ticket from yesterday about the Midi Beat Clock issue and said he has release .68 working perfectly in sync with other hosts! Brilliant, that should make it much easier for people to integrate HH into their setup without complicated workarounds :-) Thanks a ton, :D Cheers, ...

Thomas Helzle

Good to know that it works for you at least.
I used an even simpler patch, a switch sending 1 or 0... No joy.

I have to give up for now but will try again when time allows.

Thanks and cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

23fx23: I tried the setup but for me it doesn't get stable. For now I have to tend to other things, spent too long on it already - hopefully Senso can fix this at the core so that Beat Clock works better without tinkering. No idea what else to try with OSC either. Cheers and thanks for all the help!...

Thomas Helzle

Yes, all the involved applications are explicitly open in the Firewall.
OSC works on my system with every other app I try and input works as well in HH.
Are you able to send OSC?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Interesting - I'll check it out today. Thanks! I wrote a support ticket about the sync problem since I think it would be good if it would be working right out of the box as good as when I sync Live to BWS. Something like your setup should be possible to build into the internal HH sync code directly,...

Thomas Helzle

Hey ahonoe As I said in my first post, yes :-) I did enable "receive Midi clock" and yes, it kind of works, but the sync is so bad that I didn't realized at first that it is actually "working". I get the same massive drifting as if I just set both apps to the same song tempo and start both manually....

Thomas Helzle

Did another test: Same setup, Bitwig Studio as Master, but this time Ableton Live as Sync Slave. Same thing about the midi clips using the same virtual Midi driver. Result: Very very good sync. May not be sample accurate but it is perfectly usable. So it looks as if the external sync in Usine isn't ...

Thomas Helzle

Interesting. Thanks again! I tired your master clip but that gives me a kind of hickup since the offset per bar is already quite a lot, even with both apps set to the same BPM. I set the engine to "on" via OSC from Bitwig ("/play") and global sync - this works quite well. I disabled the OSC transfer...

Thomas Helzle

Further tests with the Midi Beat Clock show that Usine actually DOES sync to Bitwigs Beat Clock (the song tempo changes back after a moment when I change it manually) but the sync is very unstable and drifts a lot. I somewhere read that setting the Usine Block size to smaller sizes is supposed to im...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks for the ideas 23fx23! - I always extract to a new folder so that shouldn't be the problem. - The console shows the outgoing OSC just fine, but nothing else on the system receives it. The only thing I wondered is: the incoming, working OSC from Bitwig is shown in the console as "/play (i)" whi...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks 23fx23. I think I tried all those but the running as admin. Will try that right away (although it shouldn't be needed IMO). The OSC Monitor software basically catches everything that is sent on the machine as long as the port is correct, and it didn't receive anything either (http://www.kaspe...

Thomas Helzle

Hey, I currently try to synchronize Usine HH II to Bitwig Studio (BWS). I use OSC4Bitwig (https://github.com/git-moss/OSC4Bitwig) and that works great, I have an OSC lister running in HH and already can start and stop the two in sync from BWS and song tempo is transferred (both via the Master Sync n...

Thomas Helzle

Update: Still no luck with finding any information about how to sync to the midi beat clock from Bitwig. Incoming OSC from Bitwig works fine. I send the /play input to MasterSync -> On to sync playback and /tempo/raw to MasterSync -> tempo. I have absolutely no luck though with sending OSC out of Us...

Thomas Helzle

Hey ceasless, no, I'm on Windows and use virtual Midi drivers to send Midi to Bitwig (Loop Midi) but otherwise it should work the same. With my "TomsMultiBiController.control.js" you get every Midi-Channel separately (selectable in the Track header/Inspector) so you are able to send separate Midi ch...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks for the updates.
But I begin to wish for automatic updates now

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, that is a rather annoying limitation in BWS. I work around it by using a controller script that allows to access each midi channel separately on the track input level (see my BWS controller scripts on Github: https://github.com/ThomasHelzle/Toms_Bitwig_Scripts). But once you are inside a track...

Thomas Helzle

First post (technically second) so, "Hello" to everyone. Just bought HH2 a few days ago and so far I really like it. Tom Helzle brought up the app in a Bitwig thread @ KVR 1.5 years ago telling me it might fit my needs. Great advice Tom, sorry it took me so long to give a shot though. You were righ...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks a lot Senso for looking into it. Would that mean that you need to "hard-convert" the FLAC to wav/aif on disk or can you play back the file without conversion? Because converting them to wav is what I want to avoid - I have tools that can do that already, but I would like to keep the footprint...

Thomas Helzle

What if I neither use samplers nor piano rolls but generate everything generative?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, I also wondered about this. In Sensos announcement it sounded more flexible than I was able to get it to work so far. Other than the possibility to use generative/modular patches in the grid, I seem to actually get more flexibility for instance in Bitwigs clip launcher, where each clip can hav...

Thomas Helzle

I happily use the 32 Bit versions of all my audio software on a 64 Bit Windows 8.1 system. On a 64 Bit system, a 32 Bit application can use up to 4 GB RAM (if compiled correctly) and that is plenty for my use. Performance is pretty much the same between the two. Native 64 Bit software is a bit faste...

Thomas Helzle

I posted on Ambient Online about HH2: http://www.ambientonline.org/forum/show ... -released-)

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey,

I just stumbled over the fact that FLAC isn't supported in the Usine samplers.
I seem to get more and more samples in this format - would it be possible to support it natively without converting or is that a bad idea for some reason?

Thanks!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

...but it's the weirdest grid in the industry in that it only snaps AFTER you drop the object...

Would be great if at one point this would snap while dragging/scaling.
And a global snap distance preference would also help so it doesn't need to be set each time.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, some kind of docking would really help there.
For instance I would like to have the patch window on my second screen but with the settings window attached to it.
ATM floating windows become a mess rather quickly since there are so many and they don't remember positions.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey sephult, thanks for the reply. It's good to hear that the basics may already be there to allow for layout-remembering. The thing is, I don't want the window to be full screen. I have two big monitors and usually have the main window smaller than my 30" so that the browser fit's outside, not cove...

Thomas Helzle

Hey, I hadn't used Usine in a while but now I really dig HH 2 with the new timeline - great improvement. But one thing I find quite annoying: each time I start Usine it comes up at this small default size and all other parts also don't remember their last sizes/positions. Sounds trivial but after th...

Thomas Helzle

This looks awesome - thank you so much!
A "timeline" finally

It's also great that my plugins created with the old SDK still work!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I see.

Thanks Nay,

Thomas Helzle

I have some questions about the update: - Could you guys explain what the "be a sponsor" thing is about? What am I supposed to enter in the text field? My own name, that of somebody else? You advertise it in the top banner but it's not a link and I can't find an explanation about it...? - If I buy t...

Thomas Helzle

I see, thanks!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

This looks pretty sweet.

Can the timeline be accessed by patches like in the old Usine for generative positioning?

Any estimates when the beta is planned to go public?

Looking forward to give it a try.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, website looks much more professional now - Cool!

Looking forward to the timeline in HH II - the lack of a (usable) timeline made me switch to Bitwig completely a while ago, let's see if HH II can win me back

I don't see any mention of HH VST? Is that still on the roadmap?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

in the next version the Additional Audio input module will be modified to receive also midi. http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki2/doku.php?id=hollyhock:manual:modules:additional_input this will simplify... This is good news! One more nudge for me to try again soon to migrate to Hollyhock. Hallelujah...

Thomas Helzle

+1 for the VST version

- 1 for the chat window

- 1 for any mobile apps, I'm happy with TouchDAW, would be even more happy with Lemur I guess...
- 1 for Rewire from me as well - I never use it.

Yeah, and a + 10 for user polls

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

No, isn't important really, I just thought there may be a quick fix...

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4292
Yeah, several people with this is seems.
Well, maybe one day I'll get lucky and have Usine actually working

Maybe next year.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Now I tried the 64 Bit version of Usine which seems to work.
Curiouser and Curiouser...
I have it working in other 32 Bit software just fine?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey, a while ago my Presonus Firebox exploded and now I only have an old USB-Mixer from Yamaha left ("MW12"). It's pretty limited and only has 2 ins and 2 outs with 44/48 khz @256 samples. It works in every other audio software I have without any problems, I can select it in the Usine HH setup and i...

Thomas Helzle

Wow Nay - you pump them out like there is no tomorrow!

Great stuff and very interesting resources for playing and learning.

Thank you very much!!!!!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

You can send them a link to the VST version: http://musicalentropy.wordpress.com/201 ... on-kvr-dc/

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

hehehe - yeah - love the Devine soundbanks as well.
My favourite VST ATM.
I was merely kidding. Somehow it seems that no matter how fast your machine is (I have a new 6core i7) you always run into the limit...

Cheers and thanks again!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thanks thomas, and yes there's many possible way to decline/add features to this patch I'm also looking for a more "euclid" way to fill the steps , each 2,3,4 steps , adding others balls to modulate velocity...and so will be for v 2 ;-) That sounds great! Love the results even now. My attempt faile...

Thomas Helzle

Very cool addon - thanks a ton Nay!

I think I'll try to make this into a surround tool by having each lane send to a different midi channel. Should be fun

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Wouldn't it make sense to have a real reset button in Usine? It's something I really miss. I'd often like to go to a defined point zero like many other DAWs do when you doubleclick on the stop button. This would stop all playing notes, set the global time back to zero, reset all Samplers and Pianoro...

Thomas Helzle

From day one I voted for something every 3D software has:
A shortcut for "Zoom to everything", which basically zooms to a bounding box around every node in your patch. Simple to implement and efficient for such situations.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thanks Senso and Team! :-) Some very nice features and updates in this release. BTW. I was totally thrown by the twitter announcement linking to a Facebook page (I don't use Facebook myself) titled "Timeline Photos" and I thought "YES!!!" but had to learn it's just Facebooks way of naming things, no...

Thomas Helzle

Interesting idea, I could imagine that only seeing wires for selected modules could be helpful as an option.
Or have them very transparent for unselected modules?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Outch...

Thomas Helzle

Brilliant - Congratulations!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thanks naarud! Let me know if you encounter any weirdness - I sometimes had issues with copy and paste, but didn't have the time yet to investigate. I just googled the nautilus - wow, that's slightly over the top, I like it a bit more minimal ;-) But very interesting that something like that exists!...

Thomas Helzle

Great you like them Senso!
If time permits, I'd really like to code some more for HH...

Cheers and thanks for all your hard work that makes it all possible!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I just released my new website: http://www.design4audio.de where I mostly show design work for the audio realm.
There is also a page about the AoN_Random plugins with downloads and updated docs:
http://www.design4audio.de/home/aon-random/

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php

Midi does have a standard for microtuing, although I don't know how many plugins support it and how practical it is to implement.
Ivory Grand Piano is the one I know of supporting it: http://www.synthogy.com/news/announceme ... 2508a.html

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Cheers Seamus - It wasn't really meant as advice, I just wanted to counterbalance the - IMO - slightly one-sided tendency in this thread a bit

Best of luck! Sounds like a lovely computer!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hm - that's really funny. I do professional 3D graphics for many years and use Nvidia cards from the very first time they had hardware acceleration for OpenGL. There was hardly a time when I had problems with their drivers. For OpenGL + 3D, they are still far ahead of ATI/AMD. CUDA still outperforms...

Thomas Helzle

Hey Martin, thanks a lot for your reply. I wasn't able to nail it down so far. It seems more likely to happen if I copy/paste multiple nodes at once (like one AoN node and a connected oscillator). Internally I generate a random array, but that should be regenerated automatically based on the random ...

Thomas Helzle

I could be wrong, but I think Usine HH has a kind of logic to the auto-created inputs/outputs, where inputs that are further up the y axis are shown above inputs that are lower down on the y axis. But don't quote me on that ;-) But I agree, just user defined inputs and outputs would be preferable, e...

Thomas Helzle

Hey, if anybody is reading this, I could use a bit of help here: The above nodes for Usine HH make problems when they are copied and pasted. They somehow seem to get stuck in a weird state where using the controls doesn't really update what they do anymore. Restarting Usine solves it, but that isn't...

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, I guess you are right. In Softimage XSIs very advanced node editor, you define in's and out's for compounds (=subpatches) by hand, dragging wires from your internal nodes to in and out-boards on the left and right, defining their data formate, order, names etc. This way you can change internal...

Thomas Helzle

Could be an option in the module/subpatch etc. if it should be an "instance" or not. If you set it to "instance", nothing can be changed inside, only the "master" can be changed which is reflected in all instances. It's a pretty common idea in graphics, especially in 3D. There you often have the opt...

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, as I said it's more a cosmetic issue.
And a reminder that what we nowadays think of as the ultimate in numeric precision is in fact the opposite:
Always slightly "wrong", even if negligible

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeah, that is something rather irritating in Usine - float values change, even if very clear values are used that should normally be represented without precision problems like your example. I don't know if there are internal processed doing something to the values that causes this. Although it's mo...

Thomas Helzle

Thank you!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Okay, here's the first test release for Windows x32 and x64 compiled with SDK 1.01.001: http://www.screendream.de/AoN_Usine/AoN_Usine_Hollyhock.7z I'm unsure about the new stuff for Hollyhock, I hope I got it right. So if anything seems to be missing or not-working or should be improved, please let ...

Thomas Helzle

Ah - brilliant - just ran into this problem today and was about to ask for help.

Great, thanks!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Wow - with the speed of updates you roll out I really look forward to that auto-update you talked about

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thank you Martin!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Just be careful with those optimization guides. Some of the things they tell you to do are not really a good idea in every case. Especially the Sweetwater guide is know to have caused problems for many people. If you have some knowledge about computers you should be able to decide yourself which of ...

Thomas Helzle

Hey uge, I have a 17" MacBookPro 2007 with a Core Duo 2.4 Ghz, similar to your specs and I find it far too slow for todays audio software. I don't think I would want to use it live on stage. Especially the step from Core Duo to the more recent i3/5/7 CPUs makes quite a difference. 2007 is about 6 ye...

Thomas Helzle

Just saw in the release notes that the next version number is now changed to [1.01.001] - so I guess it will be the initial release version?
And the notes seem to address these problems with presets/VSTs.

Cool,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

+1 for everything midi. I used piz midi plugs in 5.8 but in hollyhock I get save preset memory errors So it might be time to stop using them. Although they have some features that are not avail in Usine. Yeah, it seems GUI-less VSTs don't save their settings correctly - it's the same if you copy an...

Thomas Helzle

Super!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I tried it with Opera 12 (latest), Chrome/Iron, Firefox (latest) and IE 10 in Windows 8 x64 - so far I haven't found a browser where it works.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I would be highly interested in everything midi. It's a bit sad to hear that the scripting is so badly performing in Hollyhock - I fear this will raise the bar for people against digging deeper into creating their own nodes. C++ for many is just too much and lacks the immediacy of changing something...

Thomas Helzle

This is what I get if I press the forward button :D Warning: array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, null given in /home/sensomus/public_html/wiki2/lib/plugins/issuetracker/action.php on line 2353 Warning: array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, null given in /home/sensomus/p...

Thomas Helzle

I just tried Easine VSTi 5.8 in Studio One v2.5 and it shows 6 stereo Outputs (if you expand it in the Instruments panel) - so it should be definitely doable if your DAW supports multichannel out VSTs. Usine Stage and Usine Pro only show a single stereo Output in Studio One, so maybe give Easine a t...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks a lot parityflux!

It was great to work with u-he and the Messe was awesome - so many interesting people to meet

I hope to do more work like this in the future.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey,

I just found this standalone timeline called "Duration" that sends all kinds of OSC data:
http://www.duration.cc/
Should make life easier until hollyhock hopefully will get a proper timeline/conductor again

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I was thinking more about it and I remembered that U-HE (and Ohmforce I believe) uses a simple system which might be perfect for Usine... they also need to put a lot of files within reach of VST dlls and they do it as follows: - By default, they put everything in a folder besides the dll, exactly a...

Thomas Helzle

Thank you!!!

Thomas Helzle

Above mentioned potential multithreading problem wasn't one - the internal LFO of a VST was fighting with my input. Second plug (the array version) is working as well. This was much faster since I got the hang of it already. The refresh of the array isn't working as well as it did in 5.x, but I'm su...

Thomas Helzle

http://www.sensomusic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3791

Thomas Helzle

Cool!

Thank you so much for all your work Senso!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Do I need to reinstall if I have 235 already?

Thomas Helzle

Thank you for the clarification.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

That is an interesting question: Are all subforums now open for discussions of Hollyhock?
If not, there could maybe be more Hollyhock-specific subforums?
How do you guys want to go about this?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Cool - thanks :-) I think the whole process was very easy actually, just some hours this afternoon. The only hindrance was, that I did much more C than C++ in my life, so I basically run much more against boilerplate stuff than anything Usine specific... I had one situation where threading with mult...

Thomas Helzle

I'm currently in the process of updating my plugins for Hollyhock.
The first is running already, the others will follow.
As soon as I'm confident that they work reliably, I'll provide a betaversion for you guys and gals to try

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I'm happy to disagree here ;-) I'd love to subscribe to an update list or rss-feed or have an automatic update check built into Usine. That would also make sure that people use the latest version and don't report old bugs. This could be visible on the start page (similar to the newsfeed in Studio On...

Thomas Helzle

Will we receive mails when new versions arrive or is there a RSS feed etc. we can subscribe to?

Thanks and Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

@andrewchi: I understand that very well, I was also almost unable to use version 5 because of the midi problems, but for a small company like Sensomusic it's a huge deal to rewrite the software - and as I understand it they did it in part to address exactly the problems version 5 did have... The cur...

Thomas Helzle

Just to clarify:
In no way I wanted to suggest people shouldn't say what they think about Usine Hollyhock - that isn't my call anyway.
I just found the reaction of andrewichi a bit over the top considered that this is the first beta.

Sorry if I myself was over the top with my post.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

@andrewichi: I would cool it down a bit to be honest. 1.) Usine 5.8 still works just as fine as it did before.. 2.) Usine Hollyhock is a BETA and the first of it's kind for that. I honestly did never expect it being so stable and far advanced in features already as it turned out to be. So before pan...

Thomas Helzle

Wow, this is simply unbelievable awesome.
The wait was really worth it.

Congratulations to all involved !!!

Runs stable and smooth for the last hour or so on Win 8 x64

Thank you so much for all your had work.

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thomas Helzle

You can say that again

http://www.sensomusic.org/download/

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Intro Docs PDF is up:
http://www.sensomusic.org/download/_MAN ... 20v.01.pdf

GREAT WORK GUYS!!!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

As far as music from space goes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

They should be using Usine on the ISS in the future...

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Woooohoooooo

Great to hear that!

Thanks and cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

La Tenaille wrote:mmmmm... the manual is online

...and it looks delicious! Great work Senso and Team - I look forward to try all the new ideas and tools

Thank you so much for your dedication!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Yeeehaaaaw

Thomas Helzle

hehehe - yeah, I know exactly what you mean regarding KVR

I have high hopes for the new Usine as well - in theory it could become my main audio software.

Cheers!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hehehehe - if you followed the KVR-Thread, you may have already seen this, but Urs posted the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- Ok... new features galore, mostly meant as supporting gear on the Tweak page: LFOs have separate outputs for Triangle/Saw, Pulse and...

Thomas Helzle

hehehe - I'm sure Urs and the team will be happy to hear that :-) And you should love Bazille in that case, it's like ACE on steroids, especially with the new additions that will be shown at Musikmesse. The GUI has also improved a lot from the Beta. I was involved with that part and one of my main e...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks!

It should become a great synth to mangle in Usine Hollyhock!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Is anybody from Sensomusic going to visit the Musikmesse 2013 in Frankfurt? Any users? It looks as if I will be there for the whole duration.... I was working with the u-he team on their new Bazille Synths GUI and did a big rendering of it for their booth: http://www.u-he.com/img/MusikMesse2013_teas...

Thomas Helzle

Any easter eggs cooking?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Senso: That is very good news! andrewchi: Interesting! I was never sure what exactly is causing the problems. I use a very old LMK3 Keyboard from Doepfer which tends to send "Midi Noise" from sheer age on some controllers every now and then, which surely doesn't help the issue, but no other DAW I us...

Thomas Helzle

I never used OSC so I wouldn't know, but why shouldn't it?

Thomas Helzle

Very nice! My impatience is driven by the fact that the old Usine no longer works on my Windows 8 x64 machine. It gets confused all the time and interprets midi off as on and more such nonsense, so it's pretty much unusable. But I fully agree with your choices anyway ;-) Cheers and thanks for the up...

Thomas Helzle

Looks VERY nice!
Thanks Nay.

Sorry, but I won't touch Facebook with a stick

I'd rather see the news in this forum.

Cheers!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

So what's the news for march?

Let start with the bad ones
- we are still late..

LOL

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Looks more and more exciting

Thanks for the update and all your hard work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Preordered quite a while ago and hope it will work well with Usine.
Should be soon now - February or March I guess...

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thank you

Thomas Helzle

Thank you very much nay-seven

What IDE/compiler are you guys using now for the windows version? Is it all VC++ or something else?

Cheers and all the best wishes,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Great work!

Question: How does one apply for the Developer Preview? I sure would like to port my AoN Random Plugins...

Cheers and thanks for all this good stuff!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

http://screendream.de/stuff/2125.gif BAAAAAANNNNNNNNAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :-) Wow - the new direction is brilliant. Simple things like multi-select make me very happy. The physics made me laugh out loud - what a cool thing to have! I'm also very curious about the video ...

Thomas Helzle

I am looking forward to this a lot!

All the best for you guys and your work!!!

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I was unclear: What I meant is: ATM you have to move the mouse pointer to the slider to move it, just like with a mouse. What I did expect was, that I could touch a certain position on the tablet and be able to directly move from there, just like a tablet pen works. And if that would support multito...

Thomas Helzle

Just some quick feedback: The tablet as such is really great. But for an unknown reason, Wacom decided to not make the touch-part work like a tablet with absolute positioning, but basically like a laptop-touchpad more mouse-like. So while it recognizes some hardwired multitouch gestures which can be...

Thomas Helzle

That is true, working with the normal explorer is a pain. For instance: Opening a folder with 10k mixed files sorted by date takes Windows Explorer 40 seconds here, in XYplorer it's instant AFAIK XY works from a stick including portable file associations so moving around isn't much of a problem... ;...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks nay-seven,

that's what I hope. Just thought maybe somebody has some experience with it already.
I'll report what I find - I just ordered one since my old one broke recently

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Hey,

I just wondered if anybody here tried out the new Wacom Intuos 5 touch tablets with Usine?
Is it a feasible way to use Usines multitouch?

Cheers,

Tom

Thomas Helzle

I can highly recommend XYplorer to replace Windows Explorer -> you can go one level up by double-clicking in empty space besides tons of other good stuff too - give it a try, it replaced WE for me after Vista came with it's rather lame explorer... It's so much faster to work with. http://www.xyplore...

Thomas Helzle

LOL

Brilliant.

I post this at the Studio One forum as we speak, maybe it will help others as well!

Edit: Here's a link to the post with some images

Thanks again and Cheers!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Is this the same in other hosts or how did you find this so fast?

Now this should be a killer combination - S1 with its straight forward and very easy to use timeline approach and Usine for the generative and deeper sounddesign things.

Cooooooool

You guys rock!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Wow, you are a genius!!!

I would never have guessed that this could do anything for Usine, since it is for reading and writing automation data.
Learn something new every day

Superb! Thank you so much!

Tom

Thomas Helzle

Thank you so much Nay-Seven!

Thomas Helzle

Just to clarify what I am trying to do some more: The workspace I created in Usine is a self-generating soundscape. It only relies on the masterSync node for timing and everything else is generated by my AoN_Usine random plugins that feed into VSTis and effects etc. Since I am using "Diversion" for ...

Thomas Helzle

Ok, did a quick test with Plogue Bidule inside of Studio One and its sequencer seems to work as expected. As far as midi routing is concerned: I didn't expect to have to do any midi routing for a VSTi? What would I route where for that? Shouldn't the basic VSTi-clock work without that? Or is Usine r...

Thomas Helzle

Sorry if I was unclear. I created a workspace .wkp with one patch in Usine Standalone (doesn't matter actually, it's just how I happened to do it ;-) ). I then loaded that workspace into Usine VSTi in Studio One 2.0.5. It doesn't play, the masterSync doesn't output anything when I play the song in S...

Thomas Helzle

Hi, after a long absence, I'm currently back to working with Usine and ran into a problem: I created a patch in Usine standalone (5.70.035), and would now like to include it in a timeline in Presonus Studio One (v 2.0.5). But no matter what I tried so far, Usine doesn't "play", the patch is driven b...

Thomas Helzle

Hi, since I know many here work with grain sampling tools, I thought I mention "HourGlass". While it's a standalone tool that doesn't integrate into Usine, it has some very interesting features that make it unique. Check it out here: http://xenakios.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/0-7-0-release-but-watch-o...

Thomas Helzle

Well, with 7zip (7z) using best compression the package is down from 75.1 to 56.33 Mb without adding any other overhead.
But then People need to have 7zip...
Can of worms, may not be worth it.

Cheers,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

Hi, one quesion: do I have to recompile my addons for 5.70? It seems that the input fields behave faulty now with rc1. I can enter values like 10 or 1 or 5, but when I try to enter for instance 0.5 or 0,5, the value goes to something like 0.000001 - very small numbers. I'm unable to enter decimals (...

Thomas Helzle

One thing that helped me with my Presonus Firebox was installing the legacy Firewire driver instead of the new one that win 7 uses by default. Before I had dropouts and was loosing the driver completely every now and then, now it is perfectly stable for a long time. I found a lot of "optimize your m...

Thomas Helzle

Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much.

Thomas Helzle

Thomas Helzle

Thanks a lot woodslanding - I have to try this!
Coming from graphics software where pre-mouse-release snapping is mostly a given and things had a long time to mature, I have a hard time with Usine in this respect

Thanks for the hints guys!

Cheers,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

Ah - I found it now, but the snapping behaves rather funny - all controls seem to jump around when I move something?
It's not snapping while I move a border but after I release the mouse, but somehow with a mind of it's own.

Thanks a lot, I'll test further.

Cheers,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

Hi, I did search the site but couldn't find an answer: I struggle with aligning gui objects properly , so I would like to use either a grid snap or some other form of snapping to borders/sizes/guides/rulers... Is there anything similar in Usine? How do you guys go about it? I'm sorry if I missed som...

Thomas Helzle

One more vote for a lasso selection

Thomas Helzle

I'd also want to vote for a one-key-delete option.

Thomas Helzle

Ok, so I REALLY didn't understand it :-) Now I see: - "Modules" in the Usine Browser shows what's in "Usine Pro StandAlone 5.50.55FilesModules" - "Usine" in the Usine Browser is the factory library in "Usine Pro StandAlone 5.50.55FilesUsine Library" - "VST" is showing what's in your two "vst" + "vst...

Thomas Helzle

Nay-Seven: thanks for the answers! - I'm not convinced that the devices problem is a windows fault. Other software handles it much better so I guess it needs more work to get it more elegant. But hey, I can live with it (like with the non-working single-click folder-triangles in the browser ;-)). - ...

Thomas Helzle

Hi, it is great that there are so many updates for Usine! I really appreciate that. :) But I wonder, how you guys deal with installing them? - Do you simply extract the update in the same folder, overwriting the old version or do you extract to a new folder each time? - Do you transfer your settings...

Thomas Helzle

Hm - weird.

Well, I leave that to you guys at Sensomusic

Cheers,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

Hi Seb, I just tried and when I click on the name "aon random" in the Add-Ons list (I don't get why all links are in small letters on the Sensomusic Site and Forum? Pretty contraintuitive .css setting IMO) I still get a zip with a text file that contains a link to the 7zip file - just like before. C...

Thomas Helzle

Cool, that would be good, and I created a zip at the same location with otherwise the same name (and twice the size

):
http://www.screendream.de/AoN_Usine/AoN_Usine.zip
Take whatever you prefer.

Thanks and best regards,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

ethnix73: thanks a lot for your work on the wiki! nay-seven: yeah, I think that is a bit complicated. My interest was to have the add-on on my own server, so it's easy to maintain, but I wasn't aware that it's not possible to have a direct download link. This two-step procedure is indeed a bit weird...

Thomas Helzle

Brilliant!

Thank you so much!!!

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

And another maintenance update. I cleaned up the code some more. The examples have some tiny changes too. Just redownload if you want. One question: ATM I use ctAsynchronous for the callback of the RandomSeed ( on MSG_CHANGE ) in AoN Random, since I want it to have as little influence on performance...

Thomas Helzle

Hey guys, today I updated AoN Random. I now included the Random Seed and Scale parameters that you already know from AoN Random Array. Since this changed the number of parameters, you may have to reconnect the output to the correct connector in projects you did with the previous beta. This will also...

Thomas Helzle

23fx23 - Great!
I'm looking forward to what you come up with!

Have fun in Thailand! And be sure to sample some beautiful Athmos!

Cheers,

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

ooops - typo - sorry.

Please try again

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

A new beta release is up: Updated 6.2.2011 >>>>> AoN Usine <<<<< (why does the forum convert the Link name to small letters?) This contains both " AoN Random " and " AoN Random Array " for your testing pleasure as well as some examples :) Documentation: AoN Random Array is very similar to AoN Random...

Thomas Helzle

23fx23, caco - thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I guess we have to do a betatest and you guys tell me if the load is too much and causes problems. On my 8 core 2008 MacPro with Windows 7 Pro 64 it's okay, but I'm not sure about live performance on a laptop. ATM I changed the node to react in realtime ...

Thomas Helzle

Hi Guys, [center][large] It WORKS :) [/large][/center] http://www.screendream.de/AoN_Usine/AoN_Random_Array.jpg That was quite an interesting journey today. http://www.screendream.de/AoN_Usine/AoN_Random_Array_Interface.jpg I have to do more tests, since I implemented some new stuff that needs some ...

Thomas Helzle

23fx23: thanks for your feedback. This sounds indeed interesting and I'm willing to implement it, but I still wonder if it wouldn't be better to have a separate specific node for it? My idea would be as follows, please correct me if this isn't what you would like: AoN Random Array The node is simila...

Thomas Helzle

I played some more with AoN Random and tried to use it for midi generation. In this example Workspace I determine the played pitch and the volume with AoN Random, while the note itself is played by a simple sequencer line: Included in the main download now: Updated 4.2.2011 http://www.screendream.de...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks bsork :-) Could you point me to some examples where arrays are used in a way that shows their significance or explain what's special about them? Well all of usines internal step sequencers are just arrays at their core. The possibilities are endless. for example, having an instant array of da...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks for the nice replies guys! :D Great you find it inspiring! multiphone: The internal "loop" is 9973 entries long before it repeats, should be good for quite long usage and could basically be extended to whatever number is needed if somebody thinks it's not enough. This specific algorithm uses ...

Thomas Helzle

Obsolete - the examples are now included in the main download above...

Thomas Helzle

Hi, I finished a betaversion of my first usable Usine add-on: "AoN Random" Please check it out and let me know what you think - most of you know a lot more about Usine, so feel free to suggest whatever you think is missing. This is the interface: http://www.screendream.de/AoN_Usine/interface.jpg Ini...

Thomas Helzle

Hi Martin, great you like it - I found it rather amazing - at the same time natural and completely alien :-) While it is not a "direct" result (the sound isn't the audio noise I created), the variations in the sound are the result of AoN_Turbulence. The original file I mangled here is "4270190.wav" ...

Thomas Helzle

Hi guys, after working on some other stuff, I finally returned to this project. So today I was able to finally listen to my noises :-) Doesn't sound too exciting ATM, so I guess I'll have to do a lot of trial and error to get a really interesting "noise machine" going. Maybe it's not that interestin...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks caco!

Brilliant! That did it. I had to use that pointer to the module (pPrototype in your example) and not pModule directly.

Cool! Now I can really dig in and get this thing going

Cheers and thanks again!

Thomas

Thomas Helzle

Thanks for the feedback guys! Senso: So it is not possible to disable the server update for addons on Usine start? This is not about patience, but trying to solve something - if that's not possible, I stop bugging. But I want to be sure that it's REALLY impossible first. ;) caco: "pModule->GetVstTim...

Thomas Helzle

nay-seven: I tried to clarify my post above - the browser is opened when I click the download button. What would make me like the internal add-on feature: Clicking on the download button would download the add-on in the background, extract it automatically to the correct user library folder, rescan ...

Thomas Helzle

23fx23: that is what I thought, thanks a lot for the confirmation. So an oscillator would basically create such an array at each Process call and write it out to an audio out. I have to see if my fractal noises are fast enough for this ;) I tried your suggestion with the offline-manual - doesn't wor...

Thomas Helzle

Hm - no luck here - I've read through all of the SDK and docs, but I'm still lost :( 1.) When using GetVstTimeInfo(); in the Process function, the compiler creates an error: : error C3861: "GetVstTimeInfo": Bezeichner wurde nicht gefunden. (german, meaning that GetVstTimeInfo isn't found). If I righ...

Thomas Helzle

Thanks guys for the replies! today I'm finally back to some coding and will give the GetVstTimeInfo function a try - somehow I missed this simple concept since I just looked at the time info structure itself... :/ :rolleyes: :D Martin: I usually ask a lot of questions like those you posted to myself...

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