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Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 23:01
by senso
We are proud to announce the latest version of Usine: Hollyhock.
What a strange name for a DAW? We could choose “Dragoon”, “Atomic”, “Warrior” but we choose the name of a simple and common flower…Sensomusic will always be different…
Anyway, Hollyhock is the synthesis of years of practice in electronic music and live. We have designed, with nay-seven and Martin Fleurent the ideal software to create and produce music.
Get ride of the past, Hollyhock has a totally new approach, much more powerful and simpler than ever, as you will discover following this link.
» Usine Hollyhock
Usine has been totally rewritten: new audio engine, new interface, new midi management, etc.
Also, Hollyhock is 64,32 bits Windows and MacOSX, with cross-platform compatible patches, workspaces, scripts, templates, etc.
The first public beta of Hollyhock will be available at the beginning of 2013 and to speed up the definitive version we launch a
pre-order. With this
pre-order you’ll save 40% of the final price, get 2 years of free updates instead of 1 year, be able to discuss on dedicated forum, participate in product design, post suggestions for the future versions. (For registered users after 1st September 2012, Hollyhock update is free)
We hope that you’ll enjoy this new version.
Olivier Sens

Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 23:26
by nelson
Belle Époque starts now! this is more than I was expecting

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 00:20
by Clearscreen
I think my mind just blew a fuse! There's too much to take in! It certainly is a "La Belle Epoque"! Congratulations and thanks must go to Senso, Nay and Martin, you've built what looks like the first true multi touch audio/video instrument - very nice work guys!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 00:51
by r.erorr
Amazing physical objects!!!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 01:32
by tanabarbier
A lot of congratulations, really excited about that new Usine, wow!!!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 01:59
by Clearscreen
I know it's a small thing to get excited by, but... MULTI-SELECTION!!! HALLELUJAH!!!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 02:17
by r.erorr
is there also list of new modules available, if any?
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 02:23
by Floego
Really nice interface, congrats!

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 02:50
by waolelaid
Hi very interesting and innovative new version
i'm impatient to see it
congrats to you Olivier Martin and Nay
for this soft

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 03:32
by soundmind
a true masterpiece. DAW of the future.
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 07:27
by AstralV66
There is no link to Hollyhock active on your home page, at least not for me...(using latest Firefox 17 browser).
Congrats on the new generation.
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 08:51
by nelson
what about scripting language in new usine? Still PASCAL syntax? please, please make it more universal C/Java Syntax
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 09:10
by bsork
Looking forward to getting my hands on this!
Great work, guys!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 09:48
by multiphone
Extraordinary Powerful and nice !
Congratulation to you dear Olivier, Martin and Nay.
Best
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:01
by senso
Many questions and quick answers.
- We'll try to ensure the XP compatibility but this platform will not be supported officially.
- the script engine will stay in Pascal like language, which is the simplest for the script purpose.
- the new modules list change every days, so the definitive list will be fixed later.
senso+++
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:05
by gurulogic
Wow, looks amazing! I'll admit the new name will take a bit of getting used to but the interface should not be hard

Will current patches/workspaces be compatable and what is the "gear" tab about in the browser? looks intriguing.
edit: just read at the bottom, patches 99% (haha) compatable. close enough hopefully
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:09
by caco
Congratulations to everyone involved, Hollyhock looks amazing
Looking forward to the beta being released

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:21
by senso
An Alpha "developers preview" will available soon,
A re-compilation of user's modules will be necessary because the SDK includes now a graphical library.
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:36
by caco
Thanks Senso - I will update my user modules when the new SDK becomes available

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:55
by GDLive
Congratulations to the team !
What a nice Christmas announce !
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 11:01
by jean-marc duchenne
Only one word : BRILLIANT.
If the future of human life is not very encouraging, the future of electronic music is wonderful !
2013 can't come quick enough...
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 12:03
by La Tenaille
upgrade bought ! Very exiting

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 14:10
by ZOUKOUPOMME
Is promising! Life is beautiful

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 16:08
by m(OO)n
Hi! Will the pre-order 40% deal be available until the first beta in early 2013, or until the 1.0 official release?
Thanks for your hard work, the forthcoming version looks gorgeous!

Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 17:39
by 23fx23
ouch...!! awesome work! so much nice improvments! can't wait
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 18:05
by grego mondo
Waouh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait until the end of the world !!
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 18:11
by nay-seven
Thanks to all of you for your kinds words and your enthusiasm ! , really cool
@m(oo)n , yes, until the first beta .Platinium member will be the first to access Hollyhock's stable beta versions
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 20:06
by bolson
Magnificent!!
I've been trying so hard to be patient, but I can't stop myself from asking whether or not there is any way of using a touch screen on the Mac OS version, assuming that one has some kind of drivers for the screen. My understanding is that Mac OS is very "unfriendly" with touch screens, and I don't think anyone has said one way or another.
Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 21:01
by r.erorr
bolson wrote:. My understanding is that Mac OS is very "unfriendly" with touch screens, and I don't think anyone has said one way or another.
Hmmm . . . I think Usine Hollyhock is relatively independent from whole OS, so you can adopt it for your needs.
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 01:03
by joffo78
yeah ok and now i become a user addict !!!
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 06:23
by gurulogic
So just to be clear, is this to be the Usine 6 Pro, or an introductory/alternative version based on the Usine v6 new features ?
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 08:28
by naarud
senso wrote:A re-compilation of user's modules will be necessary because the SDK includes now a graphical library.
Code compatibility from v5 and a graphical library... Great news, thanks!!
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 10:06
by nay-seven
yes, guru, you can consider it as a v6 pro

Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 11:46
by caco
Will there be an Easine Hollyhock too?
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 15:40
by AndrewChi
Okay Sensomusic team: You guys are pure GENIUS!!!
With the new MIDI-implementation I hope I can finally hook up my Akai Wind Controller through Usine!
Will standalone export and VST-export still be there?
And: With the multi-selection now working, will the GUI's be resizable in that manner?
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
severe acute attack of Crazy-about-Usine-Hyper-Enthousiasm!
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 18:51
by LevraiBernardo
Transparency and rotation on design modules ! Great !
It holly rocks !
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 19:20
by runagate
Congratulations! You've done it again.
For me, just the device management improvements alone make me want to await Hollyhock before constructing new sets. Brilliant.
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 20:53
by headphoner
Ready to test the beta:D
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 21:04
by senso
thanks for all your comments.
about holleasine

consider hollyhock as a "multi easine" so easine has less sense now.
The list of features is only the first part of what the next version will be. Many more improvements will come...
We didn't talk about osc, remote, conductors, presets, freeframe, etc....
Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 22:29
by Vincent
Ah-ah!
There IT is.
Sure it's the end of a world.
sure it's the beginning of ours.
We won't sleep, I promise.
Let's make it bang.
Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 00:06
by susceptor
Some questions:
Will one be able to edit the left side menu?
Will one be able to export plugins?
Will one be able to export the workspace as a dedicated app? (e.g. create a custom application/program ?) If yes, could one import VST plugins in that dedicated app?
I'm asking because I'm considering building a dedicated live app that can insert plugins in real time and I'm looking for (ideally) total customisation.
Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 09:27
by senso
@susceptor
actually all those questions are suspended.
as previous versions we are waiting to finalize totally the actual version before answer precisely.
Exports are very complex in a cross-platform context and will arrive later.
Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 10:26
by cmodica
Thank you all !!! So great !!!
It seems to be THE USINE

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 23:14
by runagate
It seems that the Hollyhock forum must be locked as there's no apparent way to start a thread or reply at the moment, just so you know.
Pardon my having to come to sensomusic every couple of hours to ponder the upcoming version's features
Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 23:23
by nay-seven
maybe because you're not a platinium member..?

Posted: 08 Dec 2012, 03:04
by gurulogic
funny, I used to live right down the road from this place
http://www.hollyhock.ca/cms/ . I'm sure the new Usine is much different, but at least we should be able to quote this "the start of a journey, often a journey of a lifetime. "

Posted: 08 Dec 2012, 21:28
by joffo78
and what about usine 5.80.20 ? no publication speaks about this improvement ...
and does the users modules will be compatible with the future version ?
Posted: 09 Dec 2012, 21:49
by gregh
happy days

I like the hollyhock name - delphiniums are the go at our place at the moment though:)
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 01:00
by seamus
AndrewChi wrote:Okay Sensomusic team: You guys are pure GENIUS!!!
With the new MIDI-implementation I hope I can finally hook up my Akai Wind Controller through Usine!
Will standalone export and VST-export still be there?
And: With the multi-selection now working, will the GUI's be resizable in that manner?
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
severe acute attack of Crazy-about-Usine-Hyper-Enthousiasm!
I already hook up my wind controller through Usine. It works. Although the midi reset button gets used frequently. Perhaps in Hollyhock this will be less of a problem.
Seamus
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 10:51
by noise2sine
Hello,
At moment it is not possible to ask question on the Hollyhock thread, is it normal ?
Cheers
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 10:57
by nay-seven
Same answer than
runagate, this forum is a part of the platinium license advantage

Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 11:06
by noise2sine
what is platinium member ?
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 11:13
by nay-seven
you're right, it's not clear on the
buy page, but when you pre-order Usine Hollyhock , you become a platinium member

Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 11:17
by noise2sine
Personnaly, i am interested in buying Hollyhock, but before i would have liked to ask few questions first ?
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 11:20
by nay-seven
no problems, you can ask them here..?

Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 11:39
by noise2sine
cool !
- first i was mentioning the compatibilty with XP ? it seem that it would work without any garanty right?
- As i'm not intersted in multi touch possibilities, would it be interesting anyway ?
- do we have to think in terms of "better" if we have to compare Usine and Hollyhock ?
- Usine will still be developed ?
- Hollyhock will it be as light as Usine and same for ressource used ?
thank you
Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 15:09
by nay-seven
- About XP : yes, exact
- Yes, certainly ! Multitouch is not the only advantage of Usine Hollyhock and can be used with midi controllers/OSC and mouse
- Yes Usine Hollyhock has been totally rewritten by Senso and he made the whole household and improved/rethink many features
- Certainly slower but yes for a while
- You can say lighter

Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 11:05
by grego mondo
N° 99 ...
Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 19:33
by senso
grego mondo wrote:N° 99 ...
cool+++
Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 13:06
by percuson
senso wrote:For registered users after 1st September 2012, Hollyhock update is free
I purchased my Usine pro on 2012-09-28. How do I get the update?
It seems to be a real big improvement.
Congratulations!!
Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 13:46
by nay-seven
Actually, Usine hollyhock is not ready , we're working on and you'll have access to the first beta in the early months of 2013.
The only difference is that you're not a platinium member, so you don't benefits of the 2 years license as a platinium member who pay his update ( pre-order)
Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 14:11
by percuson
Thank you!
So I have to think about doing an upgrade

Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 18:15
by headphoner
Hi,
any news?
Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 19:13
by nay-seven
yes, things are progressing, I can reassure you.
And we will make soon a point to expose the future advances and new ideas implemented , all directly out from senso's brain.
There is a lot of work and it's a small team, so as in many projects , there are some delays that we did not expected at the beginning , but things are progressing !
Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 21:00
by La Tenaille
Great !
Need some more pressure ? I'm waiting for Hollyhock to start a new project

Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 21:37
by nay-seven
Ha Ha, thanks for the pressure La tenaille
hope your projects are not the next week..

Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 00:50
by Taysete_DJ
this is looking fantastic , cant wait to give it a try

Posted: 01 Feb 2013, 15:32
by iococoi
hiya all!
any updates from the beta front?
cheers,
io
Posted: 03 Feb 2013, 23:23
by nay-seven
yes, we'll post news soon...
Posted: 04 Feb 2013, 14:03
by secretkillerofnames
Running Usine5 fairly happily on my Macbook Pro with Bootcamp/Win7 while I wait for the beta.
But Usine is rather lonely in Windows as most of my plugins are in OSX only. I'm wondering will the OSX beta arrive alongside the WIN beta and will we be able to load AU's and VST's into it?
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 10:15
by XpiR
So, reading this forum I understand that Hollyhock will be a kind of Usine V6Pro, and a multiEasine too.
What about Usine Stage ? Will there be a Hollyhock Stage version ?
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 10:29
by senso
a quick answer
- OSX and WIN beta's will arrive at the same time.
- OSX version will able to load both AU and VST plugs
- we are not fixed yet about all version (stage, free, pro, etc.) but we are focusing first on the pro.
Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 10:18
by cmodica
Hi all and thanks a lot for your work.
In May i will work on a theatre week session to start the sound creation. I want to work with Usine, like i do since a few year.
Do you think Usine HollyHock on Mac should be ready for this time ?
if i begin to work with usine, should i'll transfer my patches ans workspace on hollyHock later ?
Thank you.
Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 11:40
by nay-seven
yes, you'll have a version for May and patches will be 99% compatible , maybe some layouts to adjust .
the only thing we can't confirm is about user's modules if you use some .
workspace are not compatible actually .
Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 12:17
by cmodica
Thank you.
So now i can organise my way of work.
Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 09:57
by cmodica
An other question :
VST plugins 32 bits and 64 bits will work with HollyHock ?
Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 12:59
by nay-seven
yes, no problems !
Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 01:54
by runagate
how about VSTs made with SDK v3? Or more precisely 3.5.2, the most recent one, that has some updated features that are actually worthwhile (albeit they should have been included from the very beginning of architecting the standard in the first place)?
Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 09:33
by senso
Unfortunately the VST3 specification is not totally implemented in Hollyhock, but it's just a mater of time.