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Unread post by La Tenaille » 24 Sep 2013, 21:21

Hi,
I'm looking for a cheap solution to control a Usine VST (Mobius) from a small tactile screen that would act as an extrenal monitor. I found small monitors are quite expensive, so what do you think about a 100€ chinese android tablet ?
It seems iDisplay can do the job? As someone ever tried that ?
Thanks for your advices :)

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Unread post by ceasless » 24 Sep 2013, 21:45

I've never used iDisplay but you should definitely be able to rig up whatever you need through TouchOSC.

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Unread post by La Tenaille » 24 Sep 2013, 22:12

I discover touchOsc (in fact I discover everything :D). It seems to be the solution !
Now I go hunting a tablet...

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Unread post by La Tenaille » 24 Sep 2013, 22:45

Well, in fact it seems touchOsc can remote parameters using the VST inlets, but can't display the VST on the tablet. Am I right ?

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Unread post by iococoi » 25 Sep 2013, 08:01

I guess, your are right. some of those OSC Apps allow to customize their templates, so you could at least mimic (in terms of parameters to control) your vsts. another possibility would be to use some kind of remote desktop app...some should be available for the "i-thingies" and androids..the LEMUR app would be another solution..http://liine.net/en/products/lemur/

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Unread post by ceasless » 25 Sep 2013, 09:08

Lemur is only available on iOS, so isn't available for the 'cheap tablet' option.

OSC is bi-directional, so you can have the VST sending update information to the tablet at the same time the tablet sends update information to the VST. You won't see the VST interface but you can cherry-pick the parameters that matter to you and have them available in the OSC template.

You do have to develop your own TouchOSC template though. iococoi- is there any OSC app that doesn't allow you to create custom templates? That would be useless!

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Unread post by iococoi » 25 Sep 2013, 09:38

..i meant, in terms of mimicking the GUI of his VSTs.

as for the lemur app..
I'm looking for a cheap solution to control a Usine VST (Mobius) from a small tactile screen that would act as an extrenal monitor.
android would be one option, but he could go for an "older" ipad as well..

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Unread post by ceasless » 25 Sep 2013, 12:02

Ah, as in bitmaps and stuff?

And true, I hadn't considered the second-hand iPad market.

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Unread post by ynohtna » 25 Sep 2013, 12:51

If you've a bunch of time and some Javascript programming skills then you can create your own external UI that sends/receives OSC with Control:

http://charlie-roberts.com/Control/

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Unread post by La Tenaille » 25 Sep 2013, 14:33

The trouble in my case is Mobius VST not being very talkative. It can't send track states, start positions etc , the only way to have a true visual feedback is the VST interface itself...
I'm having a look to second-hand Ipads.
So it seems for now the best solution is configuring the tablet as an external screen.

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Unread post by ynohtna » 25 Sep 2013, 15:23

Are you dead set on using Mobius?

Have you tried Echoloop? it's a fantastic implementation and evolution of the classic EDP Pro with very good status feedback (I have a TouchOSC page that shows loop playback position, forward/reverse state, sync/quantize LEDs, etc as well as having all the interaction buttons I require).

http://www.mathons.com/echoloop.php

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Unread post by La Tenaille » 25 Sep 2013, 22:50

I just tried echoloop. You're right, status feedback can be precisely collected through MIDI out. But then I've tried 8 copies of the VST in my patch and MIDI out freezes. Mobius works perfectly with 8 tracks.

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