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motorize in HH4

Unread post by parityflux » 23 Dec 2019, 18:24

I can't seem to get the motorize function to work as I did with HH2. Motorize and mackie control seem to have no effect whatsoever. I saw the setting under Options->MIDI for sending on all outputs, but I don't see how that does anything either. I've tried many permutations dozens and dozens of times. I'm using that setting unselected at the moment.

I have to use a workaround with using a MIDI bus to flow control data back to the output of the device. The device in my case is a LIVID CNTRL-R. It's a pretty straightforward implementation. If you send it a controller message and value, it will light up a button in a color depending on value. If I use a full 127, the assigned button lights up green. Dead simple.

I got to a certain permutation where I can toggle a button in Usine using the controller, and the Usine button and the controller button both light up. That's fine. If I click the button in Usine, however, the controller does not light up. I've checked all of the relevant pipes and no midi data comes out when a learned button is clicked. I have tested a barebones implementation on a new workspace and spent hours on it.

I had this working beautifully in HH2. Now I'm just banging my head and questioning reality.

Also, I seem to remember a setting where when loading a workspace, Usine would transmit all of the motorized controls so the controller would have an initial ready-state matching Usine's. Where is that setting?

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Unread post by x.iso » 23 Dec 2019, 20:12

so you checked this and 'motorized propety in MIDI device output settings?
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if so, might be a bug 🤔
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Unread post by parityflux » 23 Dec 2019, 20:40

Thanks for responding x.iso. I definitely checked that box, as well as mackie mode (all permutations really). Generally I am leaving them both on because that's what I used to do in HH2. I set up a simple grain sampler and a button for play loop and reverse and tested them for hours in a really narrow use-case. I can get Usine to react to my controller, and send out MIDI (over a bus only, as I don't see motor control feedback going to the device out), but I cannot click a button on Usine and make my controller light up. Nothing comes out the device port (or the bus) when clicking on a Usine button.
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Unread post by SylvainT » 23 Dec 2019, 23:30

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Hello

You need to have a look on your "MIDI Device Out", right-click to display the settings and check "motorized device".

Sylvain

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Unread post by parityflux » 27 Dec 2019, 15:41

SylvainT wrote:
23 Dec 2019, 23:30
Hello

You need to have a look on your "MIDI Device Out", right-click to display the settings and check "motorized device".

Sylvain
I owe you a cold one brotha. That was 95% of the problem. I recall setting it at one point, but didn't recheck later after I refreshed devices and possibly imported an old one. Devices seem a little different than they were in HH2, not just improvement-wise. I'm pretty sure I used to be able to have several versions of the same device, with different filter sets/modules but now it seems like there can only be one for a specific device id. Not sure, but it seems so. Anyway thanks again Sylvain!

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