Building his own hardware midi mixer ?

noise2sine · Unread post by **noise2sine** » 30 Jul 2008, 12:52

Hello,

Does anyone know where it would be possible to buy equipment and components for building a personal hardware midi mixer (faders,sliders,joystick....)??? Or does anyone built his own midi gears?? and can give advices??

Thank you!!

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 30 Jul 2008, 13:26

depends of your electronic level but this one is one of the most famous :
http://www.ucapps.de/

noise2sine · Unread post by **noise2sine** » 30 Jul 2008, 14:20

thank u very much for the link!!!

amiga909 · Unread post by **amiga909** » 04 Sep 2008, 12:50

if you can do electronics and have the time ucapps will be by far the cheapest I guess...

another thing: there are some rumours about waveidea and their bitstream 3x controller. they released the specification for the expansion port, so you had less programming hassles..

2 frenchies:
- http://www.mawzer.com/playnow.php // expensive
- http://www.eowave.com/ // far out experimental, not cheap (~320$ for the usb control box, + individual controls)

wait for this ultra fat dj controller:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJ-hQ42cUI // Vestax VCM-600

- go cheap, stick to behringer...
- http://www.faderfox.de stuff, tiny+high quality controllers (~ 370$)..

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Sep 2008, 17:56

for my part , i'm waiting for an arduino i've ordered , very cheap interface ( 22€ ) and you can add different sensors
first thing i want to do is add 8 vertical linear fader to my bcr2000 , then experience with other sensors ...

http://www.arduino.cc/

Stefan · Unread post by **Stefan** » 04 Sep 2008, 22:15

If I would have more knowhow about hardware, I´d be very tempted to buy one of these kits:

http://monome.org/40h/kit

Here ( http://projects.xndr.com/monome/ ) is a nice documentation about the building of a midi controller with one monome kit. Really nice work.

They also have a good documentation ( http://docs.monome.org/doku.php ) and even projects including an arduino building block ( http://bricktable.wordpress.com/30/ )

Damn, I have to learn soldering.

Edit: monome in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJwxbTKwONc

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Sep 2008, 23:42

if you like monome or arduinome check here
http://www.xferrecords.com/molar/MolarPC.zip
more info here :
http://post.monome.org/comments.php?Dis ... 260&page=1
a cool way to wait...specially if you have a pad midi controller yet ( my old DR-5 make the job...)

Stefan · Unread post by **Stefan** » 05 Sep 2008, 08:59

Cool, I only knew of the monochrome plugin! Have to try this one!

Thanks, nay!

amiga909 · Unread post by **amiga909** » 05 Sep 2008, 21:16

was very fascinated by the monome at first.
but imho its just too expensive for what it does. its too geeky-artsy I think now..

(did not try it myself) some guys hacked the korg padkontrol 'native mode' and you can run a padkontrol like a tiny monome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekm9pEtRUX4

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 22 Oct 2010, 16:22

2 years after...

Is there any progress linking arduino parts and Usine ? Is this project down ?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 22 Oct 2010, 17:17

i must admit i don't have take time to progress on this , but most of projects are midi ones, so no particular problem with Usine..?

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 22 Oct 2010, 17:22

Hi,

I use arduino since 1 year for the moment the best solution is pure data vsmidiyoke vs usine

I added ctlout and ctlin in pure data

but a com port module would be better

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 22 Oct 2010, 17:55

but most of projects are midi ones, so no particular problem with Usine..?

I didn't find midi out device or developments , which could help to get directly in Usine. In most cases, as say headphoner, people use additional software to get arduino variables.

I don't really want to run another soft only to communicate with arduino. Maybe the com port module could effectively be the solution

Headphoner, have you a video or something to show us how you communicate with arduino ?

EDIT : seems a hardware solution is possible http://roguescience.org/wordpress/?page_id=24

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 22 Oct 2010, 18:25

Sorry i haven't got one and i'm building a new controller at this moment

i'm using pduino and shut down all audio in pure data, it doens't cost a lot of cpu

bjorn · Unread post by **bjorn** » 22 Oct 2010, 21:40

Making hardware MIDI out for the arduino is easy, problem is that with my current laptop setup I don't have any MIDI ports.

Atm I'm using http://code.google.com/p/s2midi/ to convert serial over USB to MIDI for a WIP instrument.

With the new arduino Uno boards you should be able to make them USB MIDI devices...

Anyway it has been on my todo list to get another contoller I've made to work with usine, so far I've only been using it with vvvv with my own bi-directional serial protocol. Haven't gotten around to familiarize myself with the add-on SDK and windows' serial port handling though.

A generic Serial in/out node would be really nice to have. If someone with more knowledge doesn't do it soon I might try to make a plugin that at least fulfills my own needs.

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 23 Oct 2010, 17:54

with this kind of project, you don't need any other software or i misunderstood..?

http://todbot.com/blog/2006/10/29/spook ... l-arduino/

bjorn · Unread post by **bjorn** » 23 Oct 2010, 19:05

If you build your controller/instrument with MIDI-jack for MIDI cable you don't need any other software. The problem is if you want to communicate through the serial USB connection to your computer.

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 23 Oct 2010, 21:00

ok, thanks to confirm it bjorn !

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 24 Oct 2010, 11:49

Thanks very much for all these precisions.

I will have a look at the different solutions, but bjorn's one may be nice for me

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 25 Oct 2010, 09:01

Having googled a lot since saturday...

I post a link witch is about wireless midi

Bjorn, you should have a look here to, because it talks about a driver who seems to directly transform serial port into midi device :

http://www.ladyada.net/make/xbee/midibee.html

I haven't tested since I haven't arduino card, but looks very convenient !

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 07 Nov 2010, 21:12

Hi,

the new arduino uno seems to solve some problems it appears that we can use it at a hid device

http://arduino.cc/blog/2010/10/24/ardui ... -joystick/

http://www.fourwalledcubicle.com/LUFA.php

Unread post by **oli_lab** » 07 Nov 2010, 23:19

arduino is great for midi : very easy to implement,
there is a already made library for midi that helps a lot.

just be careful not to send to much midi messages : use timers to slow down the flow to a reasonnable rate that the midi buffer on the computer side can handle....

it is also possible to send and receive OSC thru ethernet with an ethernet shield (wiznet 5100) works fine with arduino019 and recotona ardosc library.

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 08 Nov 2010, 08:39

hi,

totally agree with oli_lab you have to be care of midi flow .

For example some pot are not stable and can change -1 +1 when you don't touch it.

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