is the memory used by presets related to the memory used by waves?

[manecante]

hello,

i would like to know if the more you have PM and presets in conductor in your wkp, the less you can load long wave into sampler.
I ask because, i have quiet a lot of PM in my wkp (maybe 20 of 16 presets) and about 130 presets in the conductor and when i load a long wave in the sampler (6 mn) or more than one, i have the error message "error...probably out of memory" (i am at work and don't have internet at home anymore for the moment, so the error message is probably not exactly the same ).
And when i save the wkp, and open it again it is all deleted.

So does it mean that if you want to use long wave, you should not use lots of presets?

[martignasse]

hi manecante,

what i can say : presets for PM and conductor are stored in wkp or patch files, and can be really heavy.
of course, when wkp or patch are loaded, those data are stored in memory... reducing the amount available.

what i don't know (you should ask senso) is if all preset are stored in memory at loading step, or if there is a kind of streaming/loading on demand only when needed.

hope it help.

[senso]

just some precisions:
- preset and conductors are stored in memory so the more you have presets less you have memory for waves
- presets are much more heavy than conductor

[manecante]

Thanks for your reply, i will definitly change my way of working!
Even more since i am diving in the matrix world
And just a precision about presets, are the empty presets in PM also eat some memory?

[nay-seven]

i 've not check , but they don't have any octet to save so i suppose they don't need memory...?

[manecante]

That was my first thought but i have learnt that for example in Supercollider arrays take some memory even if they are empty...