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Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 00:51
by dave dove
hey there
i'm new here so bear with me please..
i am trying to get midi output from a midi sequencer patch in the first line
to a vsti in the second line in the same track
i have enabled rack mode but the vsti midi in registers no midi
i'm coming from more traditional DAW and i'm struggling with a few of the concepts
looking forward
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 05:48
by gurulogic
After trying for myself with no luck, I am assuming that midi is not routed between track lines in the same way audio is but in any case you could use a midi bus (in the Buses section of the browser) to achieve the same result. Keep in mind though that there will be a one bloc of latency when using buses to send and receive.
Or perhaps someone has a better answer?
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 09:16
by nay-seven
yes, you're right gurulogic
here a wiki page about buses communication:
http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php ... #send_midi
and welcome dave dove..

Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 10:56
by joffo78
ok and what don't you use the module "send midi to usine" witch send midi signal as it came of outdoor !
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 11:04
by joffo78
I made this comparassion between midi bus/send midi to usine and direct midi out :

It seems that midi bus and send midi to usine have the same block delay

Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 14:14
by dave dove
tahnks guys
will try later..
the other thing is:
in the rhombusine sequencer patch
i tried to replace the synth directly in the patch
and got nothing
i really need to get my head around this :0
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 14:39
by nay-seven
you have 2 ways here, using a bus system as actually ( but note that your vsti+bus can be in an other patch or track ) or directly link all the midi module to your vsti :

Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 16:47
by dave dove
hey nay seven
i tried both
no sound!
strangely with aalto
something's up...
EDIT:
there is no midi leaving the sendmidibus
there is no midi leaving the create midi boxes
there
is midi leaving step big and step small
i have managed to use both direct and bus midi paths with just the step sequencer module
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 17:11
by nay-seven
several thing you can check :
_main audio engine ON..?
_main synchro ( in the dashboard ) ON..?
_track ON..?
_Track mode..? ( if you have several patches on a track in grid mode , only the selected one is running)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 17:19
by dave dove
audio is on
can't find synchro - is that restart synchronisation at start of cycle?
track is on
track mode: tried grid and rack
the problem seems to be inside the patches
there is no midi reaching the midi bus from the create midi boxes
in fact there is no midi leaving the create midi boxes
i can build my own sequenced synth patches from the step sequencer module...
thanks for your assistance
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 17:25
by nay-seven
mmm, if a step sequencer works , so synchro is ON..

is the step move on the rhombusine patch..?
if not have you check the
> switch on the center..?
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 17:30
by dave dove
yes..
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 17:41
by nay-seven
can you test this workspace?
download
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 18:04
by dave dove
yes
that works
will test with vsti shortly
edit:
works with vsti via bus
if i insert vsti into patch
audio outs both go to same channel?
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 21:02
by nay-seven
And in the global setup/audio outs you have 2 different outputs ?
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 21:19
by dave dove
hey nay-seven
i'll look at that later
i'm happy now it's working and i can see how it should work
the downloaded add-on still doesn't work
do we know why?
great support by the way
dave
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 22:05
by nay-seven
the downloaded add-on still doesn't work
do we know why?
no, and for info I did not change anything in the workspace I sent you, just add the track 2

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Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 09:53
by dave dove
hey
would just like to say thanks for the excellent support
i am just beginning to explore usine
i have a lot of questions
and a few issues which may or may not be my error/misunderstanding
i will explore them when i have some time and get back to you
thanks again
dave
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 11:16
by nay-seven
Thanks dave !
Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 12:20
by dave dove
Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:06
by nay-seven
Cool first track , i like it !
Posted: 09 Nov 2012, 12:20
by dave dove
yeah but i got to learn to mix with this as well....
it's all mushy at the moment
i also just rebuilt this pc
and am about to upgrade the OS
so i haven't installed too many toys as yet
'cos i'll have to format the C drive anyway

running usine off a stick
also
is there a roadmap for 64bit?
dave
Posted: 09 Nov 2012, 14:07
by nay-seven
yes, Usine V6 is running on 64 bits, no problems
You can check
this thread about roadmap