multicore server running Usine?

[AndrewChi]

Hi, I'm going for a new live-rig computer and since I'm already using some 19"-racks for gear,
I was thinking to get a rackmounted PC for running Hollyhock on stage.
While searching I noticed most rack-computers are servers. And also, the new mac pro uses Xeon multicore processors.

So my questions are:
- Since Hollyhock is highly multicore optimized, does that mean it would be able to make use of the full 6 or even 12 cores?
- Is it even possible to install Win7 64 on a 'server computer'? (I found some posts stating yes, but I'm not really sure...)

Of course this would be really great, because then it would be a lot cheaper and a lot better for live purposes.

Does someone has any advice or experience with this? Thanks!

[ceasless]

I think the way to go is to just buy a server chassis in the size you want and put your own components in it. I wouldn't expect much boost over a server-optimized setup than a normal PC that just happens to be in a rack case, at least as far as reproducing music is concerned.

I used Newegg for my last (and only, still going strong after 7 years) build. One of the things I miss most from living in the US is that site actually, though my wallet probably feels differently

Here is a link to their chassis section: http://www.newegg.com/Server-Chassis/SubCategory/ID-412

[AndrewChi]

Do you think it would perform less than a desktop-setup?
Sometimes industrial servers are dumped at low prices and could make a difference to the wallet
If I could just run Windows or possibly Ubuntu for Usine, and use 1 PCIe slot soundcard, 1 for video...
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/proli ... b=features

[drakh]

Basicaly eny sarver can be desktop and any desktop can be a server.
What makes the difference for server and desktop is mostly the system which they run, servers are running hight avialability systems, but there is no problem to install on "server" desktop system (win7 64).
The computers which are supposed to be servers contains components which are supposed to be better - in way that server must be stable for long running time (servers are mostly turned ON) so there are higher class CPU's, memory modules and controllers etc (excluding graphics card because they are not so needed to be better).
And to usine multicore optimisation, yes it should take advantage of all cores - i can see it using process explorer and how are the processes of usine spred over the cores on my computer

[drakh]

and for the coundcard, you will probably need pcie soundcard with DAC outside the card (conntected thru external module) - because of noise generated by internal buses of the computer.
And i suggest to buy firewire expansion card (with texas instruments chipset) and firewire soundcard (rack format)

[AndrewChi]

Hi!
Thanks for your answer, exactly what I needed to know!
I have an RME hammerfall dsp II which connects via PCIe, should be no problem there I guess!
I will find another video PCIe card and of we go!
Looking forward to test this out soon. Thanks again.

[tlg]

I use a Dell rack server for my DAW. Their consumer computers and laptops are generally awful but their servers and even the Optiplex desktops are a different league altogether, and are very cheap on the used market. It was a really cost effective way to go ($700 used for a dual quad-core Xeon with a RAID controller configured as raid 10, two more available drive bays, 16 gigs of ram upgradable to a little over 400, excellent cooling, and so on) but I wouldn't recommend one for a portable setup because of the weight. Mine weighs about 90 pounds, and it's the full depth of a server rack - you couldn't even fit it in most racks designed for music gear. Also, with five fans it's very loud compared to a desktop so that might be a concern too.

You will probably need to add a decent video card, too. As far as graphic capabilities, the servers I've looked at and the one I have are on par with a netbook from 5 years ago.

As far as actual price/performance I think it's the only way to go, but I don't think you're going to be happy using it on stage unless you have an assistant to help carry it.

EDIT: imagine trying to carry an Ampeg 4x10 cab squished down into a 2u rack case with no handles or wheels and make it about 10 pounds heavier. I was originally planning on making a portable case for mine but carrying it into my 3rd floor apartment once was all it took for me to scrap that idea.