Selecting in a combo box

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 10 Mar 2010, 07:05

Would it be possible to have the selection in a combo box made with a single click/touch? Having to touch the same item twice to select it probably will stop accidents but it's frustrating when you want something to change right away...

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 10 Mar 2010, 09:16

I'll see if I can don something!

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 11 Mar 2010, 00:30

thanks Senso

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 11 Mar 2010, 08:23

but there is a conflict with the inertia effect of the listbox. I'm not sure I could find a solution.

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 12 Mar 2010, 00:36

DOH!! By inertia do you mean the timeout stuff as mentioned here: [html]http://sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1503[/html]?

I'd be happy for it to only stay open as long as the mouse was in the selection box but have instant selection change? That probably wouldn't please everyone though would it....

Is there even a possibility for a completely separate more touch friendly combo box style module? user module maybe? (he says clutching at straws...

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woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 12 Mar 2010, 06:39

but it's basically impossible to double-click from the touchscreen, so this makes comboboxes useless in the IB, right??!

I think *some* sort of solution is essential.

Can somebody explain what inertia is or does??

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 12 Mar 2010, 06:39

I miss v4 comboboxes

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 12 Mar 2010, 10:10

I imagine that you can be disappointed by the V5 comboBox style.
But do you have noticed that you can reduce the number of displayed items by using the '=' character in the list?

like:

A=0
B=24
C=34
D=231

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 12 Mar 2010, 23:46

senso wrote:I imagine that you can be disappointed by the V5 comboBox style.
But do you have noticed that you can reduce the number of displayed items by using the '=' character in the list?

like:

A=0
B=24
C=34
D=231

Gave this a try and I can't work out the difference - can you explain this a bit more Senso? Hopefully we can work out a single click solution as well...

is there any hope?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 13 Mar 2010, 10:04

something like this ..?

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 13 Mar 2010, 23:38

AH! I see - that is useful...

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 14 Mar 2010, 09:30

yes it can reduce the number of items, for example in VST program list.

La Tenaille · Unread post by **La Tenaille** » 14 Mar 2010, 13:39

nice info, thanks !

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 15 Mar 2010, 09:17

Good info, but off topic? I thought we were talking about combo boxes....

I don't want to reduce the number of items--I have just the number I want. I just want to be able to select an item with a single-click. Like all all the non-usine combo boxes in the world. Like V4.

I'm uploading my mondo combo to the addons. It works like I'd like comboboxes to work, but unfortunately uses 10000% more CPU than a combobox.

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 15 Mar 2010, 11:25

Thanks for sharing woodslanding - checking it out now. Seems it does exactly what I'm after

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 15 Mar 2010, 12:52

Like all all the non-usine combo boxes in the world.

all combo box of the word don't have inertia...

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 16 Mar 2010, 01:44

woodslanding wrote:Can somebody explain what inertia is or does??

Hey Senso, can you explain what you mean by inertia?

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 16 Mar 2010, 02:05

hey woodslanding be cool, you have a nice workaround patch

no to be honest i also in some case would prefer a single clic action item.
but see positive inertia is cool.
it means you can scroll like the iphone (not to be fashion, i don't have one, but best visual example, the device is fast and responsive in scrolling, thanks to inertia), the fastest is your move, the longest time the list keep on scrolling even if you release your finger,(i can't beleive you didn't noticed it on V5 video or in ib!) . personally i find it's a cool/best way to have a fast access while keeping a low screen size, but this implies by nature it shouldn't select on a clic to avoid accidents, on the other side you can scroll and clic with the iphone,but it must be a more complex system
probably there is something that check if click is very short, it acts as a clic on release, if longer acts for inertia scrolling, as inertia effect implies a certain amount of time to check velocity, or if velocity is lower than a thresohld it's considered as a clic?
well i can imagine it's far more complex in programming than it seems on patching;)

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 16 Mar 2010, 06:30

I ve made a different aproach workaround patch, allowing to choose nb of item to be displayed in Y if we set item size the good way.
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... %20box.pat

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 17 Mar 2010, 00:24

I'm going to play devils advocate a bit here so please don't shoot the mesenger, but if the list boxes have inertia how come they can select with a single click but the combo box can't? Is there something fundamentally different between a combobox and a listbox that precludes that behaviour?

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 17 Mar 2010, 02:32

23fx23 wrote:I ve made a different aproach workaround patch, allowing to choose nb of item to be displayed in Y if we set item size the good way.
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... %20box.pat

Thanks for sharing 23fx23, I had a couple of issues with this so I've modified it a little to suit meself if that's ok...
Simple ComboBox

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 17 Mar 2010, 02:39

yup ive seen after changing nb of items was buggy, will geck your version

it could be improved using iml to wire/unwire once split comma is done , then it should be very low cpu..

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 17 Mar 2010, 03:23

Mine's VERY simplified - I'm happy to use a scroller

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 18 Mar 2010, 11:09

Thanks for the explanation of inertia ....

But I'm not that much a fan of it on the iphone, actually. And I don't need to double-click on it either.

Well, thanks for the listbox kludges. They look to be much more processor efficient than mondo combo, although not quite as elegant.

Maybe I'll put them in, and see if I can save a few % on my cpu.....

cheers,
-e

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 18 Mar 2010, 15:44

hehe no worry woodslanding ive seen your' deleted "rant "
I agree with you, understand your frustration, just was speaking about the 'text form' of requesting, be cool and there is 99,99 percent chance a solution to come up soon or later.

by waiting, im sure we can make a good low cpu workaround based on your patch or list box teck.
on your patch, im sure if Iml could wire once to cell caption so they update then delete the wires Cpu would be much lower.
same in mine, once each list box has it's own comma, deleting wire the cpu should be <0.3 percent, that seems ok for a waiting workaround.

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 20 Mar 2010, 21:54

Wow, I would need some help to use IML that way--it's still very confusing to me!

But thanks for the support. I need to have patience, and keep remembering it is one man building this software!

cheers,
-e

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