retrieve lost scenes when renamed patch

[manecante]

Hi,
I made a patch and stored some scenes in the conductor and ..i renamed it , bad idea! I went further with storing scenes in my conductor until I realised that all my previous scenes didn't exist anymore
Now, I want to retrieve those presets, so here is my idea
1 - open the workspace (that I still have) where my initial patch is .
2 - store the value of my faders in a list for each scene of the conductor
3 - save this list
4- open the wkp where my renamed patch is, and send the values from the list (previously saved) to my faders.
5 - save each scene in the conductor.
Is it the best way to do it?
If yes i don't know how to save this list, I couldn't find a module that can do that. Something that can store and retrieve datas at some index (like a coll in Max).
Any idea?

[nay-seven]

array could be what you're lookink for , you can check this topic :
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1614

[amiga909]

interesting to know about that rename problem, have to try this.
thanks.

as nay says, u could do it with an array. but i dont see how u could do this in a easy way?
how much lost scenes (with how many tracks and how much controls) do u have? maybe the good-old pencil+paper-way would be faster?

[manecante]

Thanks, I will have a look at the array and the topic about it.
@amiga : I don't have so many scenes and only two tracks and it would be quite easy for me to do it with old fashion pen and paper, it would definitly be faster! But as I am new to use usine, it is always good to know the limits/possibilities you have when you face a problem, and a good exercise to learn more...So today will be learning array, I let you know if I find out an easy way to do it!

[manecante]

I looked at array but it is apparently not what I need.
I would need something like one list per index like this:
1- 0.2 0.3 0.6 0.2
2- 0,3 0.8 0.6 0.1
etc...
That could be stored on the hard drive and could be load in another workspace, to route each value to the correspondent parameter.
Otherwise I thought maybe there is a way to access the informations contained in the conductor and/or the preset manager and a way to store this informations in a file to use it later, no?
In a more global approach, I am wondering if there is this possibility to save some datas (like lists, numbers, strings etc..) on the hard drive to retrieve them in other workspace and route them.

[senso]

your solution will be hard to implement.
actually ther is no way to do that easilly. For me it's very conected to the post http://sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1771

You can save/load data's with scripts, there is an example in the modules/scripts folder.

[manecante]

@senso : I saw the script module just after posting my message but I have to say that I am a bit afraid of this one...It's so impressive for me who does not know this language!

I ended up with a solution though but a bit boring to do.

1 - I opened the workspace where my initial patch is . I added some presets managers inside my patch. I recalled my scenes from the conductor and saved it one by one in my PM. I added some "send to bus" on each fader, taking care that there is not two times the same name.Saved my patch.
2 - I opened the wkp where my renamed patch is. Add the initial patch on a new track.
3 - Edit my renamed patch, add it some PM. Add some "get from bus" on each fader.
4 - Recall the presets of the PM from my initial patch and save each preset in the PM of the renamed patch!
5 - And for a last time go through again all presets from renamed patch to save them in the conductor.
6 - Delete the send and get from bus created in the patchs and delete the initial patch from the workspace.
I hope it's clear!!!

[nay-seven]

thanks manecante to share your experience !
and as you said , the most important is to always learn something new...