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Tempo changes in sequencer

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Unread post by Vincent » 25 Apr 2008, 22:40

Hi guys,
Since I'm going deeper in sequencer use, I must say that there are a couple of things I can't manage. I'm afraid I missed some good tricks...
The stuff is a very big (and very long) workspace with many patches, midi and audio tracks, sometimes huge, sometimes very small.
After 5 minutes of many patches along the time line, I decide to change the tempo (with a user curve).
It works very fine with tempo, but the patches are shifted along the timeline, the usercurve points are moved, and my 198 markers shifted too... Nothing in place just like if time (or bars) stopped to be the reference.
What did I miss?
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Unread post by bsork » 25 Apr 2008, 23:20

Well, I've only just recently begun using the sequencer "for real" and I've also noticed the same. To me it seems that the patches' position and length are defined by time, not bars/beats, regardless of what mode the sequencer is in.
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Unread post by Vincent » 25 Apr 2008, 23:34

Hi Bjørn,
Yes, you're right for the patche's position and length. Did you notice moving of the curve points? When the patch becomes longer or smaller, they don't match anymore with the markers.
Does it mean that patches position and lengt are defined by time BUT NOT the markers?
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Unread post by senso » 26 Apr 2008, 11:50

I know that there is a tricky problem when the tempo change on the sequencer (only in 'Bar' mode)
I'll take a look and try to definitively find a solution...

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Unread post by Vincent » 26 Apr 2008, 16:12

Hello Olivier,
Thanks for your help.
I'll try in 'time' mode, but what about MIDI patches?
A good thing could be a "tempo track" reflected on the time line. I know this is quite a different logic from Usine's events flow...
Maybe consider the timeline as a track: double-click on it and draw in it the tempo curve?
senso wrote:I'll take a look and try to definitively find a solution...
That really would be a great improvement!
If you can do that, we'll be interested in "importing" other sequencer workspaces at the cursor!
Thanks, Olivier.
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Unread post by senso » 26 Apr 2008, 21:54

I think that the pb is solved.
Now there is no patch position modification when you change the tempo.

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Unread post by Vincent » 26 Apr 2008, 22:00

Incredible! I can't wait to check that!
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Unread post by bsork » 27 Apr 2008, 20:47

Good news!
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Unread post by Vincent » 27 Apr 2008, 21:56

bsork wrote:I've only just recently begun using the sequencer "for real"
I really like that.
Sequencer is really for real!
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Unread post by Vincent » 29 Apr 2008, 16:46

senso wrote:I think that the pb is solved.
Now there is no patch position modification when you change the tempo.
Great! Great...
Just for personal workflow organisation: will it be in the next release? When?
Thanks a lot!

EDIT: please?
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