Solved: FCB1010, Amplitube XGear and bar recorders

[Stefan]

Hi,

I don´t have a problem, but a solution. Yesterday I tried to setup my new FCB1010 with Amplitube XGear and some "Bar recorders" from usine and it took me some time to get it running. The day before I already made a similar patch with fixed bar recorders, which worked flawlessly.

First (unrelated) problem: the expression pedals we´re not working. If that is the case, you have to calibrate them once. Look here for a howto: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Behringer_ ... ion_Pedals

The second problem: I configured the FCB 1010 to use midi channel eight (and I did this with the help of FCBEdit and this thread http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=699 by Golcondio (thanks man!)).

Unfortunately Amplitube XGear only listens to channel one. Stupid piece of software.

If you don´t want to configure the fcb to channel one, there is a solution in usine: use a midi transformer in between the midi-input and amplitube xgear and change the channel to whatever you want there. Works great.



The third problem: the bar recorder patch uses a switch to start the synchronized recording. I did not manage to assign this by midi learn to one of the switches on the footcontroller (don´t know why, I guess the triggered event is too short). Instead it´s possible to use a button and a toggle as input of the switch in the bar recorder patch. The button will work with the midi learn function and so it´s possible to start and stop the recording with the FCB 1010.



I hope this will help someone in this world to get started.

Stefan

[MikeyJ]

Hi Stefan,

I'm wondering if you could give me some more detailed info regarding getting XGear to accept midi program changes? I've got it configured similar to how your screenshot is, from the midi out of my midi device to the midi in on the XGear module. If I click the connection between the two I can see the program change and CC info coming across in real time as I press my footswitch but XGear doesn't react to any of it? It's all coming across on midi channel 1.

Thx!
Mike

[Stefan]

Hi Mike,

did you set up XGear to learn the midi program changes? When you open the VST, in the top area there are two buttons 'Automation' and 'Midi'. When you press the midi button, it´s possible to assign the program changes for 'next' and 'previous' program to XGear. This works for me.

I haven´t found a way to choose a preset directly, though. I guess IK wants to make some money with the Stomp IO...

Stefan

[MikeyJ]

Ahh...I thought you might have gotten the direct preset access working. Darn! Yes, they are crippling it for Stomp IO I'm sure.

Interestingly enough, when I use XGear in Sonar and use an option Sonar has called "Configure as synth" I can actually access the presets directly...sorta. It lets me insert XGear on an audio track as I normally would but then it lets me add a midi track that I can assign to XGear's midi in (it seems like it's doing what Usine does and exposes the midi in). Then I choose a bank and patch on my footswitch and XGear patch switches to "Choose a preset..." and I do just that from within XGear. If I do that for 3 or 4 patches on the footswitch they all remember their settings!

I was SO hoping Usine worked the same way so I wouldn't have to go through Sonar and risk having the audio engine stop running in the middle of a live performance!

Thx,
Mike

[Stefan]

Ha, it works! I had to read your post to think about it...

Just add a 'Preset Manager' (Modules -> Interface Control) to the XGear patch. You don´t have to connect it. Now it´s possible to choose a preset in XGear, and store it in usines preset manager.

So we can at least store eight different presets and recall them directly with usine!

[nay-seven]

an alternative solution,using interface builder , compatible with preset manager too..( and you can add more than 1 preset manager..

[moody33]

You said : "Instead it´s possible to use a button and a toggle as input of the switch in the bar recorder patch."
I have a fcb1010 . If I want to assign a controller to a "switch" module, I do it with the midi learn function, and then , right click on the switch and i select "toggle" mode.
Don't need extra module...

[Stefan]

Hi moody and nay-seven, thanks for the infos, I´ll try!

Yes, I have to learn a lot about usine (and its setup, too)...

[MikeyJ]

Wow. This thread blew up! I knew there was someone out there who knew if this was possible.

Now, is there any chance one (or more!) of you could do a step by step walkthough on setting up a preset manager manager to allow a midi footswitch to control XGear? Usine is still new to me and VERY confusing! Would love to hear more details on nay-seven's alternative too!

Thx!
Mike

[Stefan]

Hi Mike,

this should work:

- Add a preset manager to your Xgear patch
- choose a preset you like in Xgear
- In the preset manager click the 'S' Button and and number '0' to store the preset
- choose a second preset in XGear
- In the preset manager click the 'S' Button and and number '1' to store the preset

Now you´ve got two presets stored. They should be available when you click the numbers with the mouse...

In the preset manager now:
- hold 'ctrl' on the keyboard and leftclick (and hold) on the dot that belongs to 'recall0'
- move the mouse left and let the mousebutton loose and a new element 'button' appears

- do the same thing for 'recall1'

Now do a 'midi learn' on the two new buttons. Assign a switch from the FCB1010 for each of them.

Done. Now you can switch between the two presets by pressing their corresponding footswitches.

You can do this for the other slots of the preset manager, too.

Greetings,
Stefan

[MikeyJ]

Awesome! Thx for your time! I'll try it out tonight...

Mike

[Ariajazz]

I'm trying to do this preset change procedure for Amplitube but using KEYLEARN feature instead. Can't make it work. Prest Manager doest not respond to the keys learned. What am I doing wrong??

[nay-seven]

you don't need more switches now , just right click on the preset you want recall and choose key learn:

[Ariajazz]

Thanks Nay-Seven

I'll try it out tomorrow. It's pretty late now. By the way, does it work for all versions of Usine?

[nay-seven]

yep, no problem , same for free version