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Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 22:33
by CreationFused
Hi again,
I've been busy working away, slowly sorting my osc usine to ableton setup and I have it running perfectly within a single pc environment.
However, I have finally sorted myself a multitouch windows tablet and have been trying to sort getting communication between my ableton laptop and my usine tablet. I can't get any of the osc information from ableton, I only get 7 messages when I start usine on the other pc.
I have check the firewall and opened everything in windows 7 between ableton and the tablet. Still nothing.
Any ideas on where I am going wrong?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 22:54
by nay-seven
can you copy this message you have at start..?
try also to completely disable firewall on the 2 machine to be sure..?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 23:24
by CreationFused
I've tried disabling it completely, nothing. I'll restart it after changing and check.
What message are you talking about?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 23:38
by nay-seven
maybe i misunderstood but you say :
I only get 7 messages when I start usine on the other pc
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 23:49
by CreationFused
Oh sorry it's saying:
/live/device/ ff
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 00:08
by nay-seven
and this is the correct address you set in Live...?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 00:39
by CreationFused
No there are loads of addresses that should be coming through with like the clip positions and track volume levels. I can see it all when I start usine back on the ableton pc but not over the network.
Those 7 messages are coming from usine not ableton. It's very strange!
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 09:11
by nay-seven
yep, as you say !
I've a 30 days demo version of live 8.2.2 ( same you use..? )+max4live
gone to test today
( btw if you can create a simple example file, i can save time)
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 11:26
by CreationFused
This is the liveosc script I am using:
LiveOSC_23fx_v5 Just place that in your: ableton program folder under /Resources/Midi Script/
Start Ableton then load it in under your midi section by pressing:
Ctrl+,
I am pretty sure if you simply stick a clip in an play it you should start seeing OSC information like position and volume. Correct me if I'm wrong as I am am at work and can't run a simple test.
Thanks Nay.
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 12:18
by nay-seven
ok, installed
but it's now recognized as a remote midi surface..?
so do i need to activate some midi in and out..? confused by the way Live works..
second question the remote port is 9001 as in the 23fx post..?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 12:21
by CreationFused
No need to set midi in and out... the script does all that.
Yep, port set to 9001.
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 13:39
by nay-seven
ok, finally install python and works in local
but i've the same problem with 2 computers,
works between 2 Usine instance, but don't receive anything from live on the second computer..
the only i 've found:
send in local to Usine, and from Usine 1 send to computer2/usine2...:rolleyes:
have to move right now, will try again later
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 15:08
by CreationFused
did 23fx use liveosc over two pc's?
Could there be any lag in relation to porting it through a local usine?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 15:19
by nay-seven
don't know, i suppose he told us soon
maybe there's a kind of broadcast filter in the Live script..?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 15:51
by CreationFused
Yea it seems to send it out on 127.1.1.1 maybe there is a setting to change? When usine to usine over the network it has the correct IP address in the console.
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 17:02
by nay-seven
just found this in the 23fx addon Usine APC_V1.1
If wanna run in Remote Mode (different computers):
Put the swich on left on "Remote", enter target computer
(the one live runs on) IP or name bellow.
then you need to specify liveOSC server to send to Usine Host Computer.
for that edit the liveOSC.py file found in liveOSC folder and find
self.oscServer = RemixNet.OSCServer('localhost')
replace 'local host' by Usine computer IP. ie( '192.168.1.32')
I've use Notepad++ to edit the py file,
so i've now:
self.oscServer = RemixNet.OSCServer('192.168.1.3')
works for me...
@23FX you owe me a beer ...

Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 18:22
by CreationFused
Oh you are a legend, Will try it now!
I owe you beers also! (more than one)
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 21:06
by 23fx23
yay nay: well done, no pb for the beer
i was about to post the answer when i saw you answered scrolling, yup need to edit python files normally,
btw i was never able to test, so report how it goes..
Posted: 15 Jun 2011, 11:44
by CreationFused
Well I have been testing it a bit remotely and it all seems to be running nice and quick.
I am now receiving two lots of messages, one from ableton's IP (192.168.2.4) and the other is from the 127.1.1.1 IP. Not sure if its meant to be doing that!