Issue with endless rotary encoders and faders/knobs

Ariajazz · Unread post by **Ariajazz** » 20 Apr 2017, 03:45

Hi all. I'm having a very hard time getting Behringer X TOUCH MINI encoders to work properly. I have many faders and knobs that control output gain and other parameters in mi rig, they're are set from -80 to 12 dB limits. Lets say that I have a current value of -10dB which is the proper level for an instrument, and that value is stored and saved in both patch and workspace. In a live situation I may need to increase or decrease that level. In theory everything is set correctly. Behringer encoders are set to relative mode (actually has three relative modes to choose from, I have tried them all) and midi learn on Usine is set up to relative mode too. The problem is that when I reload the workspace and try to use the encoder for the fader or knob they go to the beginning of the scale limit (-80 dB) and start increasing its value from there instead of modifying it from the current value (-10 dB). Relative mode is supposed to send and read +/- 1 CC midi values, in other words increase or decrease a current value of the fader or knob. Why is this happening?. I have to say that most of the fathers and knobs are within a container and are linked to a "display number" module that can be seen in control panel of the patch, just to mention. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

gurulogic · Unread post by **gurulogic** » 20 Apr 2017, 10:55

Perhaps try with the controller and usine knob set to absolute? This is how I use my BCF2000 and it works as expected, but maybe you are looking for a different usage than absolute allows? Also just to be sure, your Xtouch midi out device is set to be as a motorized device and your midi learned control is also set to motorized? (aka midi feedback)

Unread post by **oli_lab** » 21 Apr 2017, 00:57

maybe you could try to reload the preset with a "on init" module ?

Ariajazz · Unread post by **Ariajazz** » 21 Apr 2017, 01:57

Thanks for replying. Absolute mode does not work for me. X Touch mini has no motorized controls only endless rotary encoders, buttons and one fader. i don't see how "on init" module can help

Ariajazz · Unread post by **Ariajazz** » 21 Apr 2017, 02:55

Messing around I found what apparently causes that strange behaviour of the.Knobs/faders, they cannot be attached to any other module, this is: the "display number" module was producing all the problem. I deleted it and found another way to display the value that does not interfere with the correct knob/fader behaviour. I will keep on trying this method and see if it is reliable. Frankly I really don't know technically why this happened, it would be good to know it.Thanks a lot to all.

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 25 Apr 2017, 16:25

did you have 'pass if changed' modules between your knobs and your display numbers?

I just got a pocket dial, and I ended up creating an inc button and a dec button for each knob, and triggering those from the encoders (in inc-dec mode).... that works for me. I couldn't figure out which combination of pocket dial logic and usine logic actually worked with midi learn.

woodslanding · Unread post by **woodslanding** » 27 Apr 2017, 06:32

hmmm, well this is not working so well for me. When the cpu starts getting loaded, the inc-dec buttons seem to stop getting data..... is a button lower priority than a fader, or something? Doesn't make sense.

I'll mess around with it more. I'm using a regular MIDI input module and filtering. Maybe midi learn would be more reliable. But I would think midi messages would be high priority.

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