Hi.
May be, there is something wrong with the tempo in Usine.
Usine seems to count time slower then other softwares such as Cubase, orion, fruityloops etc... (140bpm are not really 140bpm)
That's really embarrassing when you play with other musician who don't use usine, and you need to be synchronized. (for exemple, you can keep 2 computers with Orion/fruityloops synchonized hours, not when using orion/Usine)
Try to start a sequence in usine at a specified tempo, and start a second one on another software / computer at the same tempo, you should notice after 20 cycles, that the 2 sequences are not synchro anymore.
Can you do something about that?
Thank you for developing Usine, that changed my life!
Eric.
140 bpm in Usine are not really 140 bpm
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Vincent
Hi!
What a weird joke... Is it specially with 140 BPM?
I used to play in Usine some audio tracks (grooves) done with Cubase (or CoolEdit Pro) and I did not noticed the problem. I'll try with something at 140 BPM... and banish that tempo!
What a weird joke... Is it specially with 140 BPM?
I used to play in Usine some audio tracks (grooves) done with Cubase (or CoolEdit Pro) and I did not noticed the problem. I'll try with something at 140 BPM... and banish that tempo!
Hi EPO,
are you really sure that what you're referring to has happened without proper synchronizations of sorts, for instance MIDI Clocks?
are you really sure that what you're referring to has happened without proper synchronizations of sorts, for instance MIDI Clocks?
Bjørn S
Hi everybody.
I used to play for 2 years on fruityloops and cubase with someone else who used orion.
We used to play synchronized only by using the same tempo, starting at the right time pressing the space bar of the computer keyboard
)
Now, little by little, we convert old songs to usine songs.
As usine is not really suited to write complex midi parts like beats for exemple (as piano roll is a bit archaic), we still use for a while orion, fruityloops or cubase on one of the two laptops..
That's why we noticed this tempo issue.
Launch usine, play a midi simple beat, launch cubase, make the click start at the begining of a Usine cycle , you will better see what I mean.
Thank you for your answers.
Eric.
I used to play for 2 years on fruityloops and cubase with someone else who used orion.
We used to play synchronized only by using the same tempo, starting at the right time pressing the space bar of the computer keyboard
)Now, little by little, we convert old songs to usine songs.
As usine is not really suited to write complex midi parts like beats for exemple (as piano roll is a bit archaic), we still use for a while orion, fruityloops or cubase on one of the two laptops..
That's why we noticed this tempo issue.
Launch usine, play a midi simple beat, launch cubase, make the click start at the begining of a Usine cycle , you will better see what I mean.
Thank you for your answers.
Eric.
Don't panic!
It's almost normal:
In asio specification you cant have a better precision than the buffer size per cycle (something like 2ms)
So whatever you do you will lost the synchro. Just a mater of time.
That's why for professional synchro we have to use SPMTE time code to synchronize all the machines. Even, the 44.1kHz is not the same on all soundcards. We often need what we call a "world-clock".
The real question is who has the good tempo Cubase or Usine? I'm not sure we can answer. Or maybe Cubase is 140,01 and Usine 139.99?
Try two version of the same Cubase project on two different computers. You will have very bad surprises...
Try two CD players with the same record if you want become crazy...
It's almost normal:
In asio specification you cant have a better precision than the buffer size per cycle (something like 2ms)
So whatever you do you will lost the synchro. Just a mater of time.
That's why for professional synchro we have to use SPMTE time code to synchronize all the machines. Even, the 44.1kHz is not the same on all soundcards. We often need what we call a "world-clock".
The real question is who has the good tempo Cubase or Usine? I'm not sure we can answer. Or maybe Cubase is 140,01 and Usine 139.99?
Try two version of the same Cubase project on two different computers. You will have very bad surprises...
Try two CD players with the same record if you want become crazy...
Olivier Sens
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www.brainmodular.com
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Vincent
Oh yes!senso wrote:Try two version of the same Cubase project on two different computers. You will have very bad surprises...
Try two CD players with the same record if you want become crazy...
I think you've diagnosed the right reason of my irreparable madness, doctor!
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