Current VST Program Name into DIspaly in Interface Builder

[TygermanGB]

I'm wondering if there is any way to read the current program name from a VST and display that in the interface builder. I see several ways to line them up if I duplicate them in Usine, but I like to read the current name off the VST so I can see which patch is set. I have got it to display this by program number but the name would be much better.
Cheers,
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[ethnix73]

a combo box linked to the outlet "program" of your vst perhaps, if i understand you correctly?

[nay-seven]

usual way is to link a combobox or a list box to the program inlet and choose interface builder in the visible option
here what a listbox can done if you set is layout :


ok : cross post

[TygermanGB]

Thanks guys, I've tested the list and combo boxes but when connected they are still showing the default list. If I enter matching program names it doesn't switch programs. Tried a couple of VSTs. What am I missing?

Cheers,
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[ethnix73]

Can you explain exactly what you are doing, 'cause i'm afraid i don't understand your problem...Could you post a screenshot?

[Clearscreen]

it can depend on the vst - some of them don't like to output their program names. which vst are you talking about? the native instruments stuff is great for always doing it right for example, but symptohm won't show more than the current program name...

[nay-seven]

to be more clear :

1_in the inlet you control the program with your listbox , this way the combobox become the master , ,

2_with the outlet you show the program and you can control /change it with the vst menu

[TygermanGB]

Thanks for the follow up. I must be missing a step I've hooked up combo boxes as displayed in the pictures. The combo box remains empty and has no list. I tested both these connections and still get nothing. I've tested with Absynth4, FM8, Kamra-Deelay all of which have a program list setup to show.

Pic at: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... os&id=9656

Cheers
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[nay-seven]

oh yeah ! you miss a great feature of usine , click and drag !
check this little "how to " and others following..
http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php ... first_vsti
you'll see that you can win time to patch : just click on the program inlet of your vsti and move the mouse , you'll see a menu and you choose "combobox" ...
this works for all inlet /outlet in Usine...

[ethnix73]

Of course, well done nay-seven...

[TygermanGB]

Ah Thanks! Using the drop menu did the trick. I wouldn't describe it as a feature. I'd call it a bug that adding the combo box control and then connecting it doesn't work right.

Now I've got a 128 item list when I click the combo box, a big improvement over nothing. What I see now is a super huge font in a non scrolling multi column list. Any way to adjust the font or the columns?

Thanks again. I'm one more step closer to building out my rig.
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[nay-seven]

for interface builder , you can choose list box ( list ) ,better than combo
then in interface builder , right click on it and select "edit layout " , now you can see several parameters you can adjust to fit your needs... , colors , size and more , ( and ctrl click to delete background bitmap if needed..)

[TygermanGB]

Thanks guys,
I got a combo box to work an output using the drag drop. My issue is that it doesn't survive a Usine restart. I save and exit and when I return no link between vst and combo/list box. Also its real tricky to setup. IT takes many iterations of adding and removing the VST to get it to recognise that the VST has a program list loaded and ready. Most of the time my VST program list shows <disabled> when its not.(<< >> keys on the menu bar work fine) I can't get the combo or the list to set the program at all. I have gotten a fader to set the program but that doesn't work when the project is reloaded either.

The << >> on the title bar work even when the host controls show the program as disabled. So I'm assuming that Usine can set the program and that the VST is responding. The touch screen is worth a difficult setup but Usine has to be stable once its built. I've gotten a fade to work with a combo box output which seems like the best way for me to go for patch switching but it wont work after the reload.
I'm running Vista 64 sp1 on an HP TouchSMart notebook. I think I've disabled everything on the box not directly related to running the Usine rig.

Thanks again,
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[nay-seven]

ok , i ve just download the demo of FM8 for you
you're right , this kind of vst don't recognize the combobox ( but for me when i close Usine and reload my workspace , the combo box is always here...
so 'ive look for a solution and i've found this way , ask a little of time but could do the job :

first in FM8 ,go to the browser and drag and drop your favorites programs on the right window , then activate the program change ( yellow arrow )

now built this little patch :

now you have to double click on the list box and edit manually each name in the same order than in the FM8
note the module " create midi ( module / midi ), must have message = program change
and you can find the module "has changed " in module /events control
tell me..

[TygermanGB]

A big thanks for all the help. I've got most of what I want for patch switching. I've got a combo box receiving the patch name and a fader setting the patch:

This is working and survives both a restart and an edit to the VST program list. I've set up a control panel like this:

I figured what my hangup was. The controls don't work right unless Usine is On and has a valid ASIO running. Usine has been crashing and when that happens it can't reconnect to to the AISO unless I reboot. I was kinda lazy on that and ruined a lot of my tests. So far its only crashed once while I've been running it but I've managed to crash it a bunch while troubleshooting the patch control.
I've gotten all of my MIDI sync to work and am grateful for the help. I have a cookie and now need a glass of milk. I'd like to replace the fader with a set of up down buttons. I haven't found the set of controls to add one or advance and index. Could a get another assist on this please?
Cheers,
-Ty
www.soundclick.comtygermangrooveband

[Clearscreen]

I'd like to replace the fader with a set of up down buttons. I haven't found the set of controls to add one or advance and index. Could a get another assist on this please?

you could use the combo box, a list box or a list box (buttons) before the vst (ie instead of the fader as well) when you ctrl+drag and drop off of the left side of the program input, it doesn't need to be after the vst as well. i generally do this so you can use the combo box to browse the programs easier in the interface or in the IB.

either way, you should get a display of what the programs are. it sounds like you want to be able to step through them now - the simplest way is using a 'counter simple' module from the >data>counters but it's kind of basic.

i've just put a more advanced counter setup in to the data section of the add-ons that might help. it can increment and decrement and you can set a max/min range. plug that in to the 'list' input of a combo or list box module and you should be able to step through the available programs by assigning your midi footswitches to the inc and dec buttons. if you put a 'pass if has changed' module before the combo box (which you've put before the vst...) you can should still be able to use the combobox in the interface to change programs. hopefully this suits what you want to do - if it isn't i'll see what i can do to sort it out

[TygermanGB]

Again thank you. The new control should be just what I need. The existing counters are working but one that does both inc and dec with a max on both is just what I need. I found the file on the add-os page but I'm not getting a clean download. Do I need to wait for something before its ready for downloading?
Cheers,
-Ty
http://www.soundclick.com/tygermangrooveband

[nay-seven]

yes , there's a problem with your patch clearscreen , i' ve try to rename as " .pat " but don't work more , ( 0ko )
waiting for a fix , you can find one in addons / others / Compilation_Utils_1
one is named " Increment_and_x_10 "

[Clearscreen]

it looks like the add-ons section didn't like the way i'd named my file - i've renamed it and reposted it so it downloads fine now. when i hear back from senso i'll finish it off properly and repost it as well...

[nay-seven]

yep ,i saw the problem too when you change the min...stop workink correctly ...
try add a "has changed " to the out of your min fader and link it to the in of your reset button...seems works better..

anyway , you can also use the one of the compilation_utils_1 and add min /max to the fader..

[Clearscreen]

yep ,i saw the problem too when you change the min...stop workink correctly ...
try add a "has changed " to the out of your min fader and link it to the in of your reset button...seems works better..

anyway , you can also use the one of the compilation_utils_1 and add min /max to the fader..

http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... in_max.jpg

that's a pretty elegant solution nay! anyway, i've fixed mine so it'll always stay within range and re uploaded it...

[TygermanGB]

Thanks guys I got my buttons to work with the new Incrementer. Built out this control panel to sit on top of Mobius:



Thanks for the help.
-Ty
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