Keyboard2midi interrogations....

noise2sine · Unread post by **noise2sine** » 22 Oct 2009, 22:19

Hi,

I will travel a long way by train,and i was thinking using the Keyboard to midi patch. I have deleted the midi out module to replace it with a vst instrument. But when i'm presing keyboard keys nothing happen on the vst instruments. Can anyone give me some clues about using this patch ?? and how can i use different octave ? The pitch slider doesn't seem to change anything....

Thanks in advance.....

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 22 Oct 2009, 23:28

yep , seems that's there's a problem here...senso has done this patch and i must admit i don't understand his way...

bsork · Unread post by **bsork** » 23 Oct 2009, 01:12

I also took a look and also didn't understand much; it seems the use use of the var modules doesn't work as intended. Too late too dig into this now...

What about creating a patch yourself using switches w/keylearn? 0to1 creates NoteOns, 1to0 creates NoteOffs. You get the added benefit of choosing what the keyboard "layout" should like. There's probably something to be found out there in VST-land as well.

Clearscreen · Unread post by **Clearscreen** » 23 Oct 2009, 01:55

there's a few vst's/standalone things out there, of which tracktionkeys is my favourite, but there's quite a few others if you do a google.
unfortunately none of them work right for my laptop so i tried building something in usine but the key detector outputs a double pulse - one when you press the key intially and another when you hold the key - which kind of makes life difficult unfortunately. you could maybe use the hysterisis module to change this but i thought it might increase latency too noticeably. i think i had a problem with polyphony as well so i ended up building something in bidule (as much as i hated having to go back to it!) that does the trick polyphonically and works fine. you're welcome to it if you need it...

bsork · Unread post by **bsork** » 23 Oct 2009, 10:16

You're right Clearscreen, I forgot both the key repeat and polyphony problem.

amiga909 · Unread post by **amiga909** » 23 Oct 2009, 11:50

Clearscreen wrote:there's a few vst's/standalone things out there, of which tracktionkeys is my favourite, but there's quite a few others if you do a google.
unfortunately none of them work right for my laptop

u also tried vst plugins like mkey by adbe, midi2qwerty16 by insert piz here or trollo?

noise2sine · Unread post by **noise2sine** » 23 Oct 2009, 15:42

hello,

i will try what you suggested, thanks to all again for yr ideas, maybe someone will make the Senso patch work

?

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 23 Oct 2009, 18:02

hi noise2sine,

Ive made a quick patch, I hope will work for you as my keyboard is a mac..
W is for octave down and X for octave up.

unfortunately monophonic, as it seems no way to get the infos of wich key is released indeed, maybe a suggest/improv?
maybe still usefull for quick tests. will try to improve and convert to add on, tell me if it works for you:

http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... 20Mono.pat

edit: if mapping pb, you can spy wich key is pressed in keyboard module, and adjust the mapper values.
hope it can help

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 23 Oct 2009, 18:45

great !
well done 23fx , works fine here

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 23 Oct 2009, 19:46

yes great job!

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 24 Oct 2009, 01:53

cool if work for you too, slighltly improved version muting unecessary keys to avoid errors with # and b on firtst AZERTY row and tones bellow. just a midi fader to display note out. few wires less.
deleted previous link, now in addons/ midi "key2midi"

noise2sine · Unread post by **noise2sine** » 24 Oct 2009, 14:50

Many thanks 23fx23 for yr patch !
it's working perfectly !!!!
maybe i'm asking to much : is there any chance to have a polyphonic one ?

many thanks anyway !

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 24 Oct 2009, 15:06

you're welcome little mouse..
I study the polyphonic pb actually but didn't found a solution yet, cause no way to know wich key is realeased from the keyboardmodule. Tried a solution with swichs and keylearn as mentioned by bsork, but firsts tests seems to have same pb on release if polyphonic. best i could get for now is polyphony but all notes mutes if one is relased...
investigating...

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 24 Oct 2009, 15:43

waiting for a reel polyphonic one , you can root the 2 create module to a script "Midi Auto Harmony II" for exemple ( in your midi/midi tool ) and the shift outlet of the keyboard module to the "on " inlet of this script...?
so when pressing shift , you have chord..?
i know it's not perfect but...

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 24 Oct 2009, 16:40

I ve uploaded a polyphonic attempt in midi tools.

not perfect as when more than one note played any note release will mute all notes,
well maybe still usefull for quick testing, with chords

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 24 Oct 2009, 18:33

respect maestro !

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