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Unread post by cmodica » 29 Apr 2008, 19:06

hi,

I have a bassliner patch on track 5 and this track is switch off. I need to start the bassliner at the begening of the cycle when i switch on the track.
I use a master synchro module with a restart swith. This swith is remote by the same CC of the ON/OFF track 5. So when i switch on the track the bassliner play at the begening of the cycle.

But at the end of the cycle the bass stop and wait for synchronise with the dashboard cycle (this one is not affect by the restart of the Synchro Master Module).

I tried to let the track On and to associate the restart and Mute swith, but it is the same problem.

Could you help me ?
Thanks.

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Unread post by senso » 29 Apr 2008, 21:12

try the following way:
1)clear the midi learn on the restart
2)connect a 'interface control/on activation' module to the 'restart' of the synchro module in the bassliner patch.

Each time the patch is activated (switched on) the synchro is restarted.
it should work.

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Unread post by grego mondo » 29 Apr 2008, 21:42

Why don't you just quantize your play and restart switch ??
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Unread post by cmodica » 30 Apr 2008, 14:58

I have been testing with the 'On activation' Module. It seems to be OK, but sometimes, i don't know why the synchro is get lost and the bass wait until the cycle restart. It plays one time ok and it waits ....

I observe that sometimes the cycle is restarted from the beat N°1 and sometimes not !!! it is very strange .... I have a 8/4 mesure and just one cycle.

I can't use quantize because i need to start the bass liner in synchro with an other musician (Human and not computer). If i quantise it seems to be Ok but difficult to start together at the same time ....

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Unread post by senso » 30 Apr 2008, 15:27

I'll test.

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Unread post by cmodica » 30 Apr 2008, 15:34

I'm work on this patch since few hours without success !!! I think the problem is that when the cycle restart, the bar position did not.

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Unread post by cmodica » 30 Apr 2008, 16:41

The same patch with 'On Activation' module connect to the restart of 'Master Synchro' Module works fine in Usine 3.57 but didn't work in Usine 3.63c .... When the synchro is restarting the cycle return to the begening but the bar position not, so the synchro is get lost.

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Unread post by senso » 30 Apr 2008, 17:06

just corrected,
will work on the next release 3.64, soon

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Unread post by cmodica » 30 Apr 2008, 17:38

Thank you Olivier, you are the best !!!

i will need it for a work session saturday but i will rebuild my patch for Usine 3.57.

It is good, now i can stop to search why i can't do that !!!!!

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Unread post by sergio83 » 09 Nov 2009, 22:24

Hi Doctor!
i posted my message here although the topic is a bit old...
I've got the same kind of problem with v4.22f
i would like to initialize the ppQpos of a piano roll (looped because I canot play it on the cycle for my project) to 0 when the audio engine starts
So i tryed the "on activation" but it doesn't work
To get some tests i tried just to connect "on activation" in a "toggle" and then in a "led"
After several on:off switches the led remain off
"on activation" doesn't seem to send 1
can't you help me please?

merci d'avance!

serge

PS: énorme merci pour ce fantastique usine. j'ai commencé à contaminer mes amis!

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Unread post by bsork » 10 Nov 2009, 00:25

I did a quick check, and On Activation doesn't work when the whole audio engine is started, but it works when the track is turned on, or if the patch is selected when the track is on and in grid mode. Can this help you, or do you need to turn the whole thing off and on?

Can't remember whether On Activation has worked the way you try to use it in some earlier version. Maybe, maybe not...
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Unread post by sergio83 » 10 Nov 2009, 12:20

thanks for this quick answer!
same results for me.
I would like to get initialisation on the whole audio engine start as described in the documentation p188
The goal is to initialize loop-based sample at the beginning. by default it restart where he stopped...
I use usine to real time audio/midi sample for funky music. With a 2 bars cycle, sometimes i record 8 bars grooves. so I need a loop-based sample to hear the full sample. There are solutions but they're really heavy and suitable only for one project. i'm looking for the simpliest and versatile solution.
i tried on older version (don't remenber wich??) it didn't work
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