Hammond DrawBars

[RoyG]

Hi

I've prepared nice layouts for drawbars in vertical fader format but I don't know how to reverse their action to increase going down like real drawbars (couldn't find any Math patch to reverse).

Any ideas?

BTW,
How do I upload a screenshot to let you see my layouts?

[nay-seven]

check the "Change Scale " patch in data / data manipulation

to add screenshot in your post , use the uploader menu in this forum copy the link you create and click on " bbcode " to know how to insert it

[23fx23]

another method with math : if your fader goes from 0 to 1, behind it add a A-B module where A is 1 (fadermax val) and connect
the out of fader to B. so when fader is 0 it's 1-0=1 when 1 it's 1-1=0, inverted.

a third cheating methode: in fader layout inverse the color!

[nay-seven]

yes 23FX !
something like this :

[23fx23]

well done nay always more clear with a pic

[RoyG]

Working great thanks!

But,
now the "pass if has changed" box from B4II's faders to usine's faders seems to go crazy looping.

Here is a pic:

[23fx23]

maybe you'll need to invert feedback the same way adding A-B between BII faders and pass if change?.
nice faders!

to make an image visible in forum:

[RoyG]

I did put the link between these [img] but it does not show

[nay-seven]

i've edit your post...
for your problem , can you put the "pass if has changed" before the a-b module...? if i understand well or maybe add an other screenshot of the patch...
right click on the link to have the complete path

[RoyG]

Thanks again.

[nay-seven]

ok , so something like this..?

[RoyG]

Still no luck Nay. There is some loop going on and the 2 faders (Usine&B4) are moving each other constantly.

[nay-seven]

strange , cause it's works fine here..
can you check please..?
here the patch :
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... nverse.pat

[RoyG]

Checked again and now it's working! Fantastic!

Thanks a lot guys

[RoyG]

OK new problem...

When I change presets in B4ii apparently only the drawbars that are changed between the old preset and the new preset get the "has changed" value so that if I manually use my Usine drawbars on preset a and then change to preset b, B4ii ignores that and send "has changed" only to the faders that were changed by it's own definition between presets and not the ones that are the same in both presets (and were manually changed by me) - those faders remain at the position I left them before the preset change even though in B4ii they are back to the preset a and preset b position.

Am I clear...?

[23fx23]

mmm that mean BII doesn't resend values wich seems to be a BII conceptipn pb,
or did it work when you were not inverting? when you check on the console clicking the wires coming directly from BII do they update the preset values or your last input values?

if BII ouputs correct prest values but they re not reflected cause no change betwen preset,
one solution can be to force a resend via forcing a change, in this case on preset change. ie "has changed" after the list box will send a short pulse 1, then 0 if you a
add this to coming from BII values , the data should "have changed" with the pulse and get back normal and should repass the value to fader with correct BII values.

concerning global inverse, another approach could be also to reverse the faders by fliping the JPG horizontally (but would need reflip numbers), or reorganize the frames in reverse order with a tool such as photoshop/PSP. not that inverse is not doable with patch, but could become a headach with lot's of fader/complex pach, using more modules so more cpu.. a bit boring to do, but once it's done you will earn time on patching..