xboxpad = xbox controller to midi...

[jeanrene]

New add on for xbox 360 controller, it's my first patch made with an old free version of usine (v3).
Sorry if i posted anything anywhere I'm a new "pro version user" and I'm very bad in english. (I'm french).

This patch is very simple but functionally.
You can develloped this patch if you want.
(Before I had a more advanced version of this patch but more heavy for a simple midi patch)

PS: I have post this patch in Midi tool add-ons

[bsork]

Your first patch?!? Wow!

[nay-seven]

hello and welcome jean rené !
This one will interest many ones for sure !
have you test with wireless dongle and other os than xp..?

[jeanrene]

bsork> open it it's very simple

nay-seven> hello (I'm pennyroyaltea in audiofanzine but it's a secret), I have not test with wireless because when I have buy my controller the wireless driver had lot of bug.
If you have a wireless controller and a stable driver try.

For more information search in windows and gamer forum, I think if the driver is stable all is possible.

[nay-seven]

I've a wireless pad , but not the usb dongle..no problem, was just curiosity..

[23fx23]

i had been playing before i discovered usine with glovepie and a wireless360. it has been a real lot of fun "playing audio game",
(ie crossfader or send/insert effect on joy is really cool as it auto return to center in a very fast way), can easy make shift fonctions to have several modes and control lot of things, definitelly a nice wireless portable controller that must be really cool with usine
.
I end up wireless Djing Dnb tekno stuff with a combo wiimote/xbox, wiimote beeing scotched under the xbox pad in center, alowing ir fast precise tracking and accelerometers, while i loved the joystick and buttons of Xbox, as i was pressing a Xbox button, the IR of wiimote was drived to a specific Fx, real fun, precise, fast and responsive, wireless, can even dance in front of speakers wile making the sound, it's really cool to hear direct facade and not rumble returns and hear you cut infrabass pointing at Hi freq speakers or crossfade/pan pointing left or right. the wiimote leds were informing me the tracks position, blinking when it was about to end, a xboxbutton was swiching to next track of the set. simple but reall fun and really efficient, just need to have always batteries!

now i stopped those experiments but this patch make me wanna retry that with usine now!
arf now i found back my wiimote, have to find back that usb360 dongle as you nay hehe, anyway thanks for sharing!

[jeanrene]

23fx23> I had already made a similar patch in GlovePIE in another life (before that I know usine) but this one makes a better immertion.
Other vst can also use a gamepad as midi (midijoy, etc...), my patch works with only one gamepad (microsoft360) but works better.
The free vst touchpad2midi is good also I think you like it.

[23fx23]

hi jeanrene
yup i tried it already while i had a synaptics thouchpad, response is verygood also and it's just free .smartelectronix stuff is verygood overall. now i went to korg nanopad, but touchpad2midi is nice to go "unplugged", im more and more on simplifying, so might retry that as well, thanks for reminder(also if i well remember it can detect pressure?). will try your patch as soon as find back that
^|[`#\`dongle! glad to see an ex-glovepie man also moved to usine, well while glovepie is really nice and free, usine is just ultimate for such data maniupulation, beeing possible free as well. I just miss the auto variables proposal and colors in scripts that were nice in glovepie, as well as windows mouse/keyboard/anything in/out control, but wiring in usine is so much more fun fas, and powerfull.
i don't remember what i used in my long descent midi joy search, i think it was named joy2midi or maybe it was midijoy, so don't need any plug with your patch?, cool if avoid a conversion layer.. so you hacked direclty usb device bytes data? i have definitely have to check that out!

i suppose you also know tablet to midi for Wacom tablets. I want actually to test a friend pico projector with wacom bamboo multitouch tablets, that should teorically allow a mutitouch screen alternative with high end pressure detection, but that's all just teorical for now...

[jeanrene]

23fx23> my patch uses usb entry (in subpatch), xbox controller is autodetect (if official driver is installed),
I have not tested with multiple xbox controllers but I do not see the interest because I do not have enough arms

I used a desktop computer I have just test touchpad2midi with a miditablesynth (default windows midi) in my girlfriend computer,
I think you can create your own cheap (no pressure) kaoss pad with touchpad2midi and usine, and just with usine also.

"Bamboo touch" looks good (50€) for multitouch (2 fingers).

[23fx23]

cool i never tried direct usb decode, will have a look on how you did thanks.

[jeanrene]

23fx23> I have buy two azerty usb keyboard and usb (HID) decode don't work.
With xboxpad I had chance....
Glovepie work for convert the 2nd keyboard to midi (glovepie use HID identification), for usine should be asked to senso or nay-seven.
I received next week "Bamboo touch" if it's work I post the patch.

[23fx23]

cool great, let us know about bamboo, im really interested!

[senso]

hello,
may you could create a wiki page for this patch?

see http://www.sensomusic.com/addons/index. ... ,0,0,0,#10 to know how to proceed.



the User's area is not a good place?

senso+++

[jeanrene]

senso> I think I have understand, I'll do this week with a new upload update.

23fx23> the postman rings the doorbell

[23fx23]

yeahhh hehe

[23fx23]

hey jeanrene soo curious!!!! did you try/what do you think of bamboo?

can we use finger on it as absolute windows mouse pointing? can use dual touch as standard W7 multitouch driver?
pressure? or see it in usine usb device? arf any comment/reviews.?....

[jeanrene]

23fx23> sorry...
usb hid of bamboo touch is not view in usine, in glovepie it's a simple mouse (no scroll, no multitouch, no touch-click) (glovepie know synaptic touchpad only, no usb touchpad).

The bamboo touch is too big for windows application, the driver-application is too heavy, the bamboo touch in multitouch is good for vertical scrolling but very bad for horizontal scrolling (mac touchpad is better).

keep your money or for the same price buy the korg nanopad (more small, no multitouch, but midi output),
for me my next purchase will be an akai apc20 (I buy before an rme fireface 400 to replace my creative 24bits , I can not buy the akai immediatly)

[23fx23]

ok thanks, a bit disapointing..

It was really hard for me to resist APC40 and now 20, but for me now, seeing how much work/time i ve put on my "Usine osc APC " that is about to be finished soon (i fixed myself next week deadline as i could patch it my whole life..) i will resist and wait a good touchscreen... while physicall trigger is cool now i tasted the patch i prefer have colors and captions of the grid matrix, cause it was a bit hard for me to 'visualize' clips on APC, also when i tried i found a bit disturbing that faders, as they re not updating when scrollingX, will take time to react when reaching values (as an alternative, i more think about adapt my patch for my old BCF2000 so leds and faders could update when scrolling in the patch, having the grid on touch screen, just on top. but need that è_ç"-é touch screen)..

Don't get me wrong im sure APC20 is a really nice allin one low cost device, if a bit of organisation to "memorize" . i would just avoid need of scrollingX via an adapted liveset (anyway feel it's better to lower tracks used in live perf) so the lack of motorized fader is not really a lack, and try how to hack it out in usine asap to build my own modes , but i encourage to try it first, personnally i felt it was 'still lacking of something'..

so for me arf wait and wait again , first i need to get rid off my korg zero8, while it's a nice device, i find it's too big for freq transport so i can't really work my livesets on...if anyone interested ..

[nay-seven]

@jeanrene : do you know if a multitouch synaptic touchpad could be recognize by glovepie..?
have made some quick test ,but no succeed right now

[jeanrene]

nay-seven> glovepie 0.43 work with synaptic touchpad (source: editor), synaptic touchpad exist in 2 versions (fake serial and fake ps2, fake because the port is in internal portable computer), i don't know if 2 versions work.

try touchpad2midi (synaptic only also),

in synaptic official site download drivers and 3rd party application, the last driver convert one touch in multitouch (garanty less, download old driver also and use a mouse for configuration), and in 3rd application you can download a midi toy (I think you can also use midi toy with midiyoke in default windows midi: controlpanel/audio/...)