KaossPad2 midi controler

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 12 Sep 2010, 16:41

I try to built a patch to use my KaossPad2 like an XY Midi controler in Usine.

I made one witch seems to be ok but there is sometimes a latency problem. Everythink work well but if i move my finger a little bit fast on my kaossPad there is a big latency between my gesture and the XY module en Usine.
For example if i draw 3 circle in one gesture on my KP2 there is a long delay time between the end of my mouvment on the KP2 and the end of the mouvment in the XY Module in Usine.

If i draw them slowly it is ok.

What is the problem ?

You can find my patch here :
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... Pos_KP.pat

Thank you.

multiphone · Unread post by **multiphone** » 12 Sep 2010, 17:19

Hello cmodica,

After a quick look in your patch :

First way is to re-compile the Script in Fast script. As you see the tag on the top of your script is named : Old folow the procedure here:

http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php ... de:scripts

And your script was 50x faster.

Another way is to switch the script by the lastest version (V5) in the add on section by bsork.

I think the solution is somthing like that

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 12 Sep 2010, 18:26

Right multiphone, fast scrip can improve global speed

in this case I also suspect a midi overflow caused by the 'unpack' option in midi In modules (within CC filter,sub patches).

With Usine you can proceed differently:
create two faders to your XYpad (Xpos and Ypos) use a midilearn on the faders.
midilearn have a faster response in this case.

here is a patch that I recommand you to use.

http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... 0XYPad.pat

Will be included in an add-on pack soon.

It's exactly the same patch as your's but with midilearns (CC12 and CC13) made directly on faders.

ps:works only with the latest version.

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 13 Sep 2010, 09:24

Thank you very much. I will try and change all my old script in fast script.

Of course Midi learn is better ... i should thought about it

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 14 Sep 2010, 15:34

Your patch senso works very well. It is exactelly what i need ! Thanks.

I just had a ''A/B" module (B=127) after the Fader Midilearn X and the XY module (and the same on Y axis).

Thnk you.

I didn't find any script on my patch, multiphone ...

multiphone · Unread post by **multiphone** » 14 Sep 2010, 15:47

@cmodica

No problemo !

In your fist patch i imagine that you need to "morph" some values with the (X/Y Morph patch).

Now with the "Senso Patch" all is Ok !

bsork · Unread post by **bsork** » 14 Sep 2010, 15:58

Just for the record, the X/Y morph patch is another beast. It uses the XY module to "morph" between four sets of parameters and as such has nothing to do with MIDI control of the XY.

multiphone · Unread post by **multiphone** » 14 Sep 2010, 16:09

Of course !

But in the first patch of cmodica you have one (X/Y Morph script)

"You can find my patch here :
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload … Pos_KP.pat "

so... ??

multiphone · Unread post by **multiphone** » 14 Sep 2010, 16:22

ohhh !

No script in this patch.

All my apologies.

Sorry, i dream !?

I need to sleep.

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 15 Sep 2010, 09:48

don't worry. I hope you have a good night.

i have an other question. If i put the ''KP Midi control'' in a subpatch, this subpatch didn't receive any midi information !
Strange No ?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 15 Sep 2010, 10:11

if you talk about your version with the midi in module , it's normal this module need to be in the main patch ( you can link it or use buses )
the version proposed by senso don't have this problem, cause it use direct midi learn

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 15 Sep 2010, 10:58

OK, i test it and the senso version is ok, but the midilearn are get lost and i had to re-learn.
thanks

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 15 Sep 2010, 11:34

mm, are you sure you have
add a midi learn , then save you patch before reloading.....?

héliouk 6 · Unread post by **héliouk 6** » 21 Sep 2010, 16:34

hi! i've just tried to make a midi learn on the k pad 2,but the result is chaotic,not well learned, how do you make it?

héliouk 6 · Unread post by **héliouk 6** » 21 Sep 2010, 16:42

oups sorry,i didn't use the trace out... seems to be ok now,great!

héliouk 6 · Unread post by **héliouk 6** » 21 Sep 2010, 16:49

not so ok,is there a way to do it?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 21 Sep 2010, 17:45

hello heliouk , witch one do you use cmodica or senso one..?
on senso one you use the midi learn on the 2 faders ( if you have difficulties use the remote panel in the patch to assign them manually )
on cmodica , it's not really midi learn you have to change them in the 2 sub-patch named Midi CC Filter KP_X

héliouk 6 · Unread post by **héliouk 6** » 25 Sep 2010, 09:43

hello nay,
i use senso one,so i midi learn the x moving my finger on the pad on the x axis,and so the y
it doesn't work so easily,but it worked once and i saved yhis config,so i can use it,but not so easy to learn
did i miss something?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 25 Sep 2010, 09:59

ok, i suppose you make the midi learn with a pad , like the nano pad for example..? so i know it's not easy to have clean midi learn, and most often i've to use the remote panel and assign them manually:

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 27 Sep 2010, 09:35

Yes, i assign them manually and it works well.

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