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23fx23
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Unread post by 23fx23 » 31 Dec 2010, 02:29

maybe total pain, but who knows.

i wondered if Vsts could provides their natives CCs to parameters assignations and if we could somehow get those infos.
for example on this vst cutoff is 74, res75 this one 21 ect

what im after is using usine multiples advantages relating automations, but i dlike to be able somehow to export the midi clip
i would have reced with usine, and import it in ableton (or could be extended to other daw).
if we could rec the same cc lane in the midi clip than the native one the vst react by default to, when reimporting the automation would be working in any other daw natively. it could also have some kind of "automap" features applications,
like we move a knob on a vst, and it's cc is scanned, then we move a hardware knob, and some patch maps the datas
so the cc in is straight converted and controls the vst. dk if see what i mean.

no worries if complex, there are workaround, for example iml for the last thing, or manually create maps.
but before i make a manual database of all my vsts cc nb and param names
i was wondering if the master didn't have any magic pgming trick possible ;)

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Unread post by gurulogic » 31 Dec 2010, 02:44

I bet this is gonna be a tough one! I don't think internal CC recognition is really standardized in VST's. The best bet really might be to have a VST wrapper (ie: automap) that standardizes CC > param relationships for a plugin and then can be used between different hosts.... Easine! ;-)
But I'm no master so who knows...

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Unread post by senso » 31 Dec 2010, 11:28

bad news, the VST midi map is not included in the VST specification so no way to get them automatically ...
As I know Automaps are done by looking into a huge map database which contains most popular plugs CC definitions.

But in Usine, when a VST is added on a patch a map file is created in the /temp/ folder. Actually this map is very simple but it will be improved in the future.

23fx23
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Unread post by 23fx23 » 31 Dec 2010, 17:35

ok, sad they don't gave this,but no worries was just in case... i will investigate the /temp/folder
ans start my database :)

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