Wireless Midi

[yooha22]

Hi guys
these website are offering midi over wireless Lan solutions .


So if you need to send midi over wireless with Usine / etc , use these softwares .

i've tried Ipmidi with Mackie control emulation plus ableton live . works good and the feedback is ok .



http://nerds.de/en/ipmidi.html

http://www.musiclab.com/products/rpl_info.htm


Goodluck


p.s Usine is Awesome

[dentaku]

I've sent MIDI over my network using Toybear's Net2MIDI and MIDI2Net. It's free too.
http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html

[yooha22]

is it reliable for live ? and latency ?

[dentaku]

is it reliable for live ? and latency ?

I wouldn't know because I've only tested it out to see if it works. You'd have to use it for a while to see if it's the right tool for you.
I plugged my AKAI LPD8 into a laptop and sent notes and CCs to my desktop over WiFi and it seemed to react just as fast as when it's connected directly to the desktop.

By the way, there's also EtherMIDI which is free. http://www.linuxsampler.org/ethernetmidi/

rtpMIDI seems to be the most popular one at the moment because it directly based on the OSX network MIDI.
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/rtpMIDI.html
The main website makes it look like you NEED to have Bonjour installed for it to work but I refuse to EVER install Bonjour. It's one of the worst services ever created.
It seems like it CAN be setup manually so Bonjour isn't needed but I haven't bothered trying it yet.
Here's some instructions... http://www.humatic.de/htools/touchdaw/man_midi.htm

[senso]

We might also consider to create an OSC patch to send MIDI over the network directly in Usine.
Very easy to do.

[yooha22]

Thanks dentaku , will try ,


@Senso so if we want to use it this way we need Usine on the other computer receiving the OSC to change iHostt to MIDI rightxontoller ?

Controller Computer Usine Midi/Osc ----> Host Usine -----> Ableton ? Lost here

by the way i've been trying to edit 23fx's patch so i can have a Customized version for myself instead of midi ,

and i've learned many stuff here and there , just can't figure out how to use the devices and their parameters since they are confusing like /live/devices (int device ) and even asked the Liine forum but no response

-is it possible to send OSC to trigger notes in Ableton ? so instead of Wireless midi we can use OSC .

[dentaku]

I've found that while OSC is nice, in most cases you still need to mess with converting the OSC to MIDI because MIDI is the only thing the software you're trying to control understands.
When major DAWS start supporting OSC then network MIDI won't be needed as much.

I was messing with TouchOSC this summer and I needed to translate all the OSC to MIDI using PureData so it just added another layer of complication.

[yooha22]

do you work with ableton ? if yes , you recieve sysex or midi data to process the feedback ?

[dentaku]

I've never messed with Sysex stuff. I really don't know anything about it.

By the way, in case you're interested. I'm testing out Ehermidi 0.0.2 by Benno Senoner right now and it's actually more useful than Toybears Net2MIDI and MIDI 2NET because it has INs and OUTs all in the same interface. The latency is not noticeable to me and its simple to setup.

[yooha22]

cool thx , btw what kinda midi interface do you work in Usine ? did u make it yourself ?

[Fléau]

We might also consider to create an OSC patch to send MIDI over the network directly in Usine.
Very easy to do.

so, is that the V6 "send midi to the lan" osc based?

[oli_lab]

trouble with OSC is that it is UDP in Usine : messages are send on the network but you can't be sure all of them are received.
in case of midi noteon and off it can be a big issue.
this appears mostly with wifi network...
a workaround would be to send values continuously, even if they are not changing so if a message is dropped, the next will be received.
to do this with midi is a hell of a lot of values to send continuously.

I have a hardware device (a POD) on the backburner that I plan to use with Usine : it will receive MIDI from a midi keyboard then send it to the network via OSC.
I'm planning to send CC, Patch Change and note ON and Off as they are received, the HW device will memorize all midi states received; if all the notes are off on on given channel, a special OSC message will be continuously send. that should help the hanging note syndrome.
/POD/Min/Channel/NoteOn note# velocity
/POD/Min/Channel/NoteOff note# velocity
/POD/Min/Channe/CCl CC# CCvalue
etc...
/POD/NoteControl/channel <0 or 1> : send 0 if all notes are off on that channel

[Fléau]

thanks