midi from one patch to another.. help please

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 00:51

hey there
i'm new here so bear with me please..

i am trying to get midi output from a midi sequencer patch in the first line
to a vsti in the second line in the same track
i have enabled rack mode but the vsti midi in registers no midi
i'm coming from more traditional DAW and i'm struggling with a few of the concepts

looking forward

dave

gurulogic · Unread post by **gurulogic** » 04 Nov 2012, 05:48

After trying for myself with no luck, I am assuming that midi is not routed between track lines in the same way audio is but in any case you could use a midi bus (in the Buses section of the browser) to achieve the same result. Keep in mind though that there will be a one bloc of latency when using buses to send and receive.
Or perhaps someone has a better answer?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 09:16

yes, you're right gurulogic
here a wiki page about buses communication:
http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php ... #send_midi

and welcome dave dove..

joffo78 · Unread post by **joffo78** » 04 Nov 2012, 10:56

ok and what don't you use the module "send midi to usine" witch send midi signal as it came of outdoor !

joffo78 · Unread post by **joffo78** » 04 Nov 2012, 11:04

I made this comparassion between midi bus/send midi to usine and direct midi out :

It seems that midi bus and send midi to usine have the same block delay

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 14:14

tahnks guys
will try later..

the other thing is:

in the rhombusine sequencer patch
i tried to replace the synth directly in the patch
and got nothing

i really need to get my head around this :0

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 14:39

you have 2 ways here, using a bus system as actually ( but note that your vsti+bus can be in an other patch or track ) or directly link all the midi module to your vsti :

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:47

hey nay seven

i tried both
no sound!
strangely with aalto

something's up...

EDIT:
there is no midi leaving the sendmidibus

there is no midi leaving the create midi boxes

there is midi leaving step big and step small

i have managed to use both direct and bus midi paths with just the step sequencer module

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:11

several thing you can check :

_main audio engine ON..?

_main synchro ( in the dashboard ) ON..?

_track ON..?

_Track mode..? ( if you have several patches on a track in grid mode , only the selected one is running)

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:19

audio is on
can't find synchro - is that restart synchronisation at start of cycle?
track is on
track mode: tried grid and rack

the problem seems to be inside the patches
there is no midi reaching the midi bus from the create midi boxes
in fact there is no midi leaving the create midi boxes

i can build my own sequenced synth patches from the step sequencer module...

thanks for your assistance

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:25

mmm, if a step sequencer works , so synchro is ON..

is the step move on the rhombusine patch..?
if not have you check the > switch on the center..?

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:30

yes..

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:41

can you test this workspace?
download

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:04

yes

that works
will test with vsti shortly

edit:

works with vsti via bus
if i insert vsti into patch
audio outs both go to same channel?

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:02

And in the global setup/audio outs you have 2 different outputs ?

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:19

hey nay-seven

i'll look at that later
i'm happy now it's working and i can see how it should work
the downloaded add-on still doesn't work
do we know why?

great support by the way

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Nov 2012, 22:05

the downloaded add-on still doesn't work
do we know why?

no, and for info I did not change anything in the workspace I sent you, just add the track 2

.

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 07 Nov 2012, 09:53

hey

would just like to say thanks for the excellent support
i am just beginning to explore usine
i have a lot of questions
and a few issues which may or may not be my error/misunderstanding
i will explore them when i have some time and get back to you
thanks again

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 07 Nov 2012, 11:16

Thanks dave !

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 08 Nov 2012, 12:20

http://soundcloud.com/reflektor-6n6p/usine-test-1

dead chuffed....

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 08 Nov 2012, 16:06

Cool first track , i like it !

dave dove · Unread post by **dave dove** » 09 Nov 2012, 12:20

yeah but i got to learn to mix with this as well....
it's all mushy at the moment
i also just rebuilt this pc
and am about to upgrade the OS
so i haven't installed too many toys as yet
'cos i'll have to format the C drive anyway

running usine off a stick
also
is there a roadmap for 64bit?

dave

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 09 Nov 2012, 14:07

yes, Usine V6 is running on 64 bits, no problems
You can check this thread about roadmap

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