send midi to lan between pc and mac.

[joffo78]

Hello.
I use to send midi by lan between 2 pc with midi over lan application.
But how can i do for a pc with a mac ?

[iococoi]

as far as i know..OSX has something built-in called MIDI Network Setup..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/a ... p_0307.htm
http://www.setianworks.net/blog/?p=85
http://fox-gieg.com/tutorials/2007/midi-over-a-network/

[nay-seven]

And an other solution with copperlan

[joffo78]

Yeah i discover the midi network setup in mac which to be very useful. But i'm not sure that it's possible to create a session with a pc.
I don't like mac commercial strategy but i think here Os is better than microsoft for DAW.

[joffo78]

I'm installing copperlan.
It's funny because around me somebody tell me that with windows we have already to restarting and not on mac.
Installing copperlan on the 2 OS, only Mac was rebooted

[iococoi]

you could try this..it's compatible to OSXs MIDI network

http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.html

cheers,
io

[nay-seven]

Thanks iococoi , an other good solution and with hardware options too ( with the kissbox , even if i don't find any price and where to buy..)

Could be interesting to group this in a future wiki FAQ page " how to communicate between PC and Mac (Midi network and more)"

I'm sure this question will be asked more in the next months...
so feel free to describe here all your experiences about this !

[iococoi]

tobias erichsen is quite the guy..he did the ASIO2KS drivers back in 2003 and just recently started to contribute some fine midi-tools to the community.

Kissbox has a hefty price tag with roughly 500€ for the TC2TR.

yes..some kind of FAQ/ workflow page..usine to anything, anything to usine..my latest gimmicks would be the quneo, and a 198x yamaha electone hx-5, which i intend to control via usine

[jeremysdemo]

Yeah i discover the midi network setup in mac which to be very useful. But i'm not sure that it's possible to create a session with a pc.
I don't like mac commercial strategy but i think here Os is better than microsoft for DAW.

well since midi is only midi data and not reliant on OS you could try a simple midi cable between the two PC's

sure it doesn't have all the thrills and bells of LAN communication but it works for midi data.

If you're not wanting to invest in a PC/ MAC Midi interface (like two MOTU fastlane) there are other alternatives.

1.Bluetooth (there are some bluetooth PC's out there) most MAC laptops at least are capable, there are also 3rd party hardware you could use for desktop PC, D-Link DBT-120 for example, this involves making a Serial connection inside Bluetooth and then using a serial to midi converter, Go to :Serial to Midi for detailed information on how to do that in Mac OS.
2. Hyperterminal (something like X-CTU) or any terminal program also with a MIDI to serial converter and MIDI over LAN driver (provided by KORG) of course this requires two Xbees (wireless RF transmitters) or arduinos, also requires Clean FTDI before installation of Korg driver, sometimes it takes more than one installation.


The Korg driver may also work with an Ethernet cable and LAN connection (I never tried it) provided you have a Serial port set up properly on the MAC side.
there is one drawback to serial over midi and the midi baud rate 31.2 kbaud, which is limited, for example, sending excessive Polyphonic-Aftertouch MIDI messages easily breaks this limit and data is lost.

Alternatively you could buy a program like Midi over LAN $129 or ipMidi which use Multicast UDP and do not suffer from the baud rate restrictions of a typical Midi over Lan driver.

really it all depends on what your needs are, and what gear you have or are willing to purchase, you haven't really made it clear what you plan on transferring (eg. simple midi on/off notes, or complex communications between DAWs in real time (2 way connection).
knowing that will help narrow down the extent of support via hardware/software you will need to be effective.

jerm

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[oli_lab]

for 20$ you can make a USB-MIDI interface, ( http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensyduino.html )
one in each computer, connect the two Teensy by the RX and TX pins, e little bit of coding (very few line actually) and you get a USB midi bridge between 2 computers, self powered, no special drivers needed,
Once you plug the USB cable into you computer, you'll have a midi port available

quite simple to make, I can send schematics and code for the one(s) interested

Olivar

[nay-seven]

a good candidate for a tips/wiki page...?

[grego mondo]

Great !!