My controller's knobs/faders aren't accessible via "midi key learn"

[gm167704]

Hi all,
I'm new to Usine Hollyhock, i just started trying to get under the hood here and dig in, so please forgive my ignorance if i am missing something obvious!

I've been reading a bit on the forums concerning how to use/customize using midi controllers with Hollyhock and it seems like the processes of assigning knobs and faders to control plugin/patch parameters can be pretty complicated depending on the device?
I have a Novation SL37 keyboard midi controller (USB2) and am using a mac with Yosemite. It works partially out of the box - the keyboard on the controller works and automatically slices whatever sample i throw into a rack across the keyboard. The knobs/pads/sliders however are not assignable, meaning when i press a pad/slider/or knob/press a button the MIDI led in the master panel/device panel/rack device are not lighting up in response.
My questions are - - -

1) Is there a midi controller that i can purchase that will support the "midi key learn" function of hollyhock that will include knobs and fader support, without having to go under the hood/manually build a patch to get a knob and faders to track?
OR
2) am i missing something obvious that will make the Remote SL's faders accessible using the "midi key learn" button?

Thanks guys! Great software

[nay-seven]

Hello and welcome,

no, the Midi learn in Usine is quite easy

what you can test:
-in the setup/Midi tab be sure your device is selected and active.
- Activate the "trace midi in "feature" in the same tab
-open the trace panel ( the icon pen) and move the knobs on your controllers, you must see MIDI messages like midi in : 176-05-43-(CC) [Chan=1]
-If yes, activate the MIDI learn ( with the menu icon or [ Ctrl/cmd+M] ) select a knob on a patch and move your fader, stop MIDI learn, assignation is done

[gm167704]

hey nay-seven,
Thanks for the quick reply! Okay so activating trace mode was definitely the step i was overlooking. assigning keys/knobs and faders is now intuitive! For some reason however, my novation sl37's knob section (faders work/touch-pad works/keys work) don't work/aren't assignable/don't register in the trace panel. Is there something i can do to try to get hollyhock to see the faders?
Thanks so much

[nay-seven]

I don't have this controller, but reading the manual, i see there's differnt templates, have you try some of them to check if faders appears ?
I hope also for you this is not the same problem that their nocturn controller which is not working without automap

[sephult]

Quick question...being novation does this require automap server to be running? You said the keyboard works but not the faders right?

[gm167704]

hey guys,
okay so everything is working now!
Nay-Seven, I had tried changing the templates without effect. This morning i updated the sl37's usb driver and then reinstalled the automap universal software. I reconfigured it using ableton live as the host software and it started working -
Thanks so much for the help! cheers

[sephult]

Great news!!!