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Unread post by sm_jamieson » 14 Jul 2017, 12:52

I have noticed that HH3 is much slower to launch (evaulating devices etc.) and to open new racks than HH2 was.
There may be a good reason for this, which is fine, but it would be useful if it was faster.

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Unread post by x.iso » 20 Jul 2017, 16:15

+1
it's kinda strange how long it takes to just add some patch to the rack, let alone open whole prepared rack. and I'm on SSD to boot. sometimes it even freezes completely if workspace is already quite busy.
I'm not doing anything extraordinary in terms of amount of plugins and devices used, other DAWs can handle same with ease. I suspect that the culprit is graphic engine which also makes CPU very busy (especially with different scaling, lots of GUI elements, etc), instead of making GPU busy. If it does use GPU to draw UI, then the problem is that it only utilizes integrated GPU, which is no good. It's a huge waste not to utilize dGPU when present, for physics engine as well.
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Unread post by sephult » 20 Jul 2017, 17:27

Open the log file in the root directory. There should be a Canvas line...what does yours say?
I have:

[8:41:45 AM] Canvas:TCanvasGdiPlus
[8:41:45 AM] Screen Resolution:1920x1080

This is on Intel HD Integrated, I'll check the main where I have a few other GPU tied in.

It used to be if you didn't have dx10-11 you would revert to a specific canvas which was much slower.
believe this was related to 2D rendering or some sort of routine where there were possible differences.


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Unread post by x.iso » 20 Jul 2017, 21:38

Well I'm 100% certain that it uses Intel integrated graphics as it is, but here's the log:
[17:15:51] Canvas:TCanvasGdiPlus
[17:15:51] Screen Resolution:1536x864

my nvidia GT750M (laptop gpu) supports at least DX11 and seems to run on DX12 just fine. So I don't see why it would get ignored.
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Unread post by x.iso » 27 Aug 2017, 08:48

Ok, I think I found the reason why HH3 can be quite slow on opening workspaces or adding anything to it. The thing is, I'm from Russia and our stupid government seems to have blocked some site by IP effectively blocking the rest of sites on the same hosting service, which in this case happen to be this site. So I have to use system level VPN to even sync add-ons on HH3, and then I've finally noticed that when I have VPN on HH3 loads stuff without delays (no GPU acceleration still hurts performance a bit though).

This is quite sad, I was interested in Usine some years ago reading articles about it, but when I tried to visit sensomusic it wouldn't load, so I thought the project somehow was abandoned. Nowdays most Russian internet users accustomed to using tools to workaround blocked sites/services, so when I came back for Usine (with VPN on), I found that it was actually there and I could try it.
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Unread post by gurulogic » 27 Aug 2017, 19:52

I have recently discovered and reported an issue where HH can be very slow or unresponsive when computer is connected to a wireless network with no internet access. Possibly your problem is related and will hopefully be resolved soon.

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Unread post by senso » 20 Sep 2017, 22:57

the internet connection issue has been solved in HH3.0.138
now, loading speed is almost normal. Maybe a little bit slower than HH2 but normal, since HH3 has to load more settings.

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Unread post by x.iso » 21 Sep 2017, 20:37

Yes, it's fixed now.
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